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#76 tianakaesha

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 08:21 PM

Kezza - not really. One of the only side effects is that the dog may be taller, have denser bones and be unable to reproduce.

The benefits FAR outway the cons.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE(kezza @ Aug 25 2007, 07:46 PM) View Post

Chrissy25 although your statement is a good one and yes people should get there dogs desexed just to let you know that desexing a pup so young can cause problems with there body later on in there life so i think saying that she should have desexed them before she sold them is wrong.


Ummm.... I think I know what Im talking about because I have had a few foster pups that have been desexed quite young and they are fine. Kittens are desexed earlier than 10 weeks. Rescue Organisations are legally obligated to desex ALL animals before they are rehomed. So the question of too early should not even be an issue.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 12:48 AM

I too have stayed away from this topic as I have not really known how to respond and I truly do not mean to offend the OP. I was once unaware of the issues surrounding backyard breeding and animals in petshops.

Puppies are cute. And...

We love our pets so much we think it would be in some way nice to share that love with others by mating them to produce a litter(s) of more lovable animals.

I guess what we don't realise is that there are already thousands of dogs out there who are looking for homes. Its a simple question of demand and supply.

Consider this scenario: You are looking to purchase a dog for your family, your choices are:
  • Cute puppy next door/down the street who has been bred from an animal-loving family. They love their dogs and thought it would be lovely to have puppies...
  • Cute puppy at the pet store - why, you want a puppy NOW and if you visit enough pet stores, there will probably be one you can pick up straight away!
  • Visit the pound where there may not be a suitable dog TODAY, and if there is they are not as cute and fluffy and small as the puppies mentioned above.
  • Go to a reputable breeder who has spent lots of money doing health checks (hips, eyes, family genes, temperament), you may have to wait months for the next litter (which could be quite a while as this breeder doesn't breed their dogs all year round - only selectively) and is most likely going to charge more than the puppy from down the road...
Unfortunately the chances are you (as a pet-loving person yourself who is potentially unaware of the issues surrounding backyard breeding and petstores) are more likely to opt for one of the first two options.

We know this is true because that is what the majority of the Australian population do. We know this because when you choose a puppy from a pet store/ backyard breeder you effectively chose NOT to get a puppy from the pound. This is why there are thousands of dogs euthanised every year in pounds all over the country. And this is why there are petshops all over the country who are enjoying a thriving business.

Who are these people who send their dogs to the pounds? These are not the people who love their animals so much that they chose to breed them.

These are the people who buy the puppies from the pets stores and backyard breeders. Maybe it was an impuse purchase? Maybe the puppy eventuates to have health problems (which could have been avoided buy screening pups and parents properly)? Maybe the puppy ended up too big/hairy/noisy/etc?

Finally, how much do you trust the 'loving homes' that you have sold your pups to? Unfortunately there is a roaring trade out there of puppy mills who buy puppies under false pretenses, pretending to be just such a 'loving home'. There is a recent famous story of one such incident whereby an experienced breeder sold their pedigree puppy to one such horrible person. They in turn used the puppy as a money-making machine where it was treated abominally and forced to churn further puppies under what can only be considering disgusting health circumstances for that pup in question. This person managed to convince an experienced breeder that they were one such 'loving home'.

I think the point Chrissy25 makes when she explains the necessity for shelters and rescue operations to desex animals is not to put the dog at risk, but to save them from evil people who would in turn abuse the animals to supply pet shops.

I truly know that you love all your puppies and both your pets. I know that what you have done, you have done out of love and perhaps you (just as I once didn't realise) were not aware of the issues surrounding breeding. I know you have decided to desex your dogs now and I congratulate you on your decision. I hope that perhaps someone out there who is either deciding whether to breed their animals or thinking of buying a pet from a backyard breeder or petshop will stop and think twice after reading this.

Please know that I write this because I am only thinking of the animals.

OMG I am so sorry this post is so long.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 09:20 AM

Well said Saffire!!!!! I think we need an applause icon.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 11:20 AM

Excellent posts Chloe, Chrissy and Tas12, I completely agree with all of you.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 12:01 PM

Chloe I am going to copy your essay and keep it. It was so articulate! Chrissy, I dont know you much but I applaud you also for all the work I have read that you have done in fostering animals.
I learn so much in threads like this. To the Op I hope you can see this not as negativity but recognise that these are very valid issues that many people feel strongly about. I'm sorry that you feel this is a rain on your parade.
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 05:11 PM

Staying away from any arguments, but just wanted to say what a gorgeous litter! I want a pup and have been hassling Tomy to get one. Hopefully after XMAS we'll go to the RSPCA and pick up one of the unwated gifts that people tend to give and give it a good home.

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