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Posted 07 March 2007 - 07:24 AM

QUOTE(~Melissa~ @ Mar 7 2007, 06:43 AM) View Post

Fancy turning up to a bride's house 2 hours before her wedding when you had been cancelled (and got to keep your money) 2 weeks earlier!! blink.gif

Then walking in the house and refusing to leave the house until the bride came down (in her underwear) because "you had booked a taxi and a babysitter"!!!

Fancy then, after eventually leaving, driving past the house multiple times peering out the window!


That just proves how unstable Sally - Sal is!! Why would you do such a thing... Sal are you on medication?

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 07:31 AM

Sally is a freak of nature.. But I am very proud that I picked this up myself when I had made an appointment myself to go see her and her equally freaky husband.. The minute I walked into their studio I felt uneasy... You have such a bad aura in your studio that I'm surprised you get any work at all..
Whilst looking at your albums you both stood there staring at me without uttering one single word.. Not only did you make me uncomfortable but I felt like I was almost in the presence of something so cold it wasn't funny.. your husband would mutter things under his breath and then laugh at himself.. I was just waiting for the clown music to start...

Thank god I had the right gut instinct to walk my butt right out there... And so should anyone else who goes into your studio...

good riddance... stalker..

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 07:57 AM

QUOTE(pinksweetie21 @ Mar 7 2007, 07:59 AM) View Post

what do u mean, is this what happened to you?


It certainly is.

I just wish that I had trusted my instincts as Bernice did!

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE(~Melissa~ @ Mar 7 2007, 08:57 AM) View Post

It certainly is.

I just wish that I had trusted my instincts as Bernice did!


Aahh.. but you did to a certain extent.. Even though she stalked you on your day at least you had the right feeling about cancelling her in the first place beforehand.. We both did a good thing..

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 08:23 AM

OMG! I can't believe that they're taking it this far!

It seems that on numerous occasions they have taken it WAY beyond stalking!!! Something needs to be done about them - but what?!

Admins should block them for a start!

I hope you girls are all OK after the way you've been treated! It sounds like some of you were lucky to get out early enough, but others haven't been so lucky - hopefully they get a resolution soon!

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 09:50 AM

Wow, Sally sounds a bit full on.
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:42 AM

This is ridiculous... 333 or Sal whatever your name is, there are many girls on this forum who have had negative experiences with your company. Not just one.

Get over it and stop stalking these poor girls.
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE(Mel_F @ Mar 7 2007, 06:23 AM) View Post

It seems that on numerous occasions they have taken it WAY beyond stalking!!! Something needs to be done about them - but what?!

Today Tonight/ACA? I imagine they'd have a field day with this one.
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 02:04 PM

Sal has visited us several times today ladies, she may not be posting but she is certainly reading.

Maybe she thought she'd come in and tell her 'side' and we'd collectively say, "awww poor Sal, you have been hard done by haven't you" rolleyes.gif . But perhaps seeing that it hasn't gone according to plan she's hiding out.

Guess she underestimated the solidarity of us Brides laugh.gif



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Posted 07 March 2007 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(333 @ Mar 6 2007, 10:12 PM) View Post

Dear Mrs in 2006 aka August Bride,

Why have you refused your album? Did your lawyers perhaps recommend you didn't pick it up so they can keep charging you more fees? What's this rubbish about appropriate channels? Do you realise every time you speak to your solicitors it costs you more and more money. Can't you speak for yourself? Even though I have made so many efforts at communication you have not communicated to me directly except through solicitors or the media. Please send us an email rather than trying to bully us through the media or this forum.

We invite you to pick up the album that has been posted to you or its duplicate that has been kept in our studio or even perhaps both.

The statement that you were asked to "stump up another $7500" is a gross error of fact. You initially chose over 600 then 400 pictures after it was suggested that you might start with a short list of 150 for a package with 40-90 images in the base album price. Typically our clients spend $3,000-5,500 for 150-300 images in 28-38 sides of a larger, well designed, custom printed magazine album. We do not expect clients not to want to revise the first short list, nor to waste our time by initially choosing, for instance, six details of putting on the rings, when most clients only put in one.

Did you realise that I asked for your contract to be formally assigned to the new company so we could bear the debt? This was refused. We continue to wish this to be resolved peaceably, and for you to have your album, parent albums and prints at no extra charge. Restructure is hardly a cost effective way of avoiding a $10,000 damages claim for the loss of $400 item. It makes no sense to be part of correspond frequently on this forum with people, who, among other things, suggest illegal activities such as spamming our family with "a lot of porn sites". Legal remedies are available for this and other activities. Please take the compensation offered, grow up and move on.

Sally


There are so many things I disagree with in the above paragraph. Its infuriating yet laughable at the same time.
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 06:02 PM

wow... bugger...

i mean i can understand a business trying to stick up for themselves where/when/if its due, and im not advocating or condoling anything here.. Im not getting involved..

BUT, i can appreciate the fact of wanting to offer their side of teh story considering the public nature of how this has been evolving.
There ARE 2 sides to every story, and irrespective of how a company makes itself look, or how silly certain behaviours or comments/responses may seem, or whether or not its one persons word (client) against anothers (business).. this is now in legal hands
Thats what it comes down to.

I would recomend that this entire thread be deleted or moved to the admin trash bin as slander, defamation, and libel not only puts THIS site at risk, but also puts each one of you at risk who choose to comment.

Everyones entitled to their opinion, believe me im all for free speech,
But as its now in legal hands, please be VERY careful as the business can attempt to claim potential loss of earnings for public defamation, based on an alleged incident, which is yet to be ruled upon.

Its not "fact" as yet, as there has been no ruling that i know of, so please guys, be VERY careful with what you say as it could make matters worse for the bride who has put alot of faith and financial investment into this company and her memories.

Once this gets into legal hands, ALL parties are a victim. I certainly know that NO company would want this (never been there myself, but i would dread it if it ever came to that), let alone a Bride whos put alot of faith into a company, whos now required to take these kind fo steps to achieve the peace of mind she should have recieved the moment she signed the contract of service.

Noone wins..

As a business, i would cut my losses, provide the product as agreed at the time of contract, THEN provide high res printable images (if shot digital) If not digital,provide the Negs (this includes all copyrights to the images).
From there move forward from this.

Take it from someone who trains copious amounts of service providers who has heard almost every story in the book... Its not worth losing an entire business model over one client. Irrespective of the circumstances surrounding the problem.
If you cant sell the album, use it as a folio.
Like i said, in situations like this, forget the now and look forward, else the same thing will just happen over and over again.
Ive seen business' collapse on smaller issues like this, then to have the owners starting up again and almost always end up doing the same thing...

This affects Couples, clients, business', and more importantly the Wedding industry in general

Without regulation in the wedding industry, issues like THIS will continue to happen. For each problem you read about, theres probabaly another 10 which you hear nothing about.
Hell, jsut head to bridezilla and see how many girls are having issues...

Its issues like this that justify why the industry itself SHOULD be regulated.

If i was the customer, and i wasnt happy, i would STILL expect what i paid for according to the contract and nothing more. I wouldnt be expecting more than i paid for unless it was ofered as compensation.
However i WOULD request recompense in the form of high res images or scans,so as to at least manage your archives on your own, with no further contact with this business EVER.

Like i said, this thread should be locked, or at the least, carefully moderated, as its on a VERY thin legal line.

Just be careful guys, coz you dont want to make the situation worse than it already is.

Its in legal hands, i say leave it there.


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Posted 07 March 2007 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE(Studio-D @ Mar 7 2007, 07:02 PM) View Post

wow... bugger...

i mean i can understand a business trying to stick up for themselves where/when/if its due, and im not advocating or condoling anything here.. Im not getting involved..

BUT, i can appreciate the fact of wanting to offer their side of teh story considering the public nature of how this has been evolving.
There ARE 2 sides to every story, and irrespective of how a company makes itself look, or how silly certain behaviours or comments/responses may seem, or whether or not its one persons word (client) against anothers (business).. this is now in legal hands
Thats what it comes down to.

I would recomend that this entire thread be deleted or moved to the admin trash bin as slander, defamation, and libel not only puts THIS site at risk, but also puts each one of you at risk who choose to comment.

Everyones entitled to their opinion, believe me im all for free speech,
But as its now in legal hands, please be VERY careful as the business can attempt to claim potential loss of earnings for public defamation, based on an alleged incident, which is yet to be ruled upon.

Its not "fact" as yet, as there has been no ruling that i know of, so please guys, be VERY careful with what you say as it could make matters worse for the bride who has put alot of faith and financial investment into this company and her memories.

Once this gets into legal hands, ALL parties are a victim. I certainly know that NO company would want this (never been there myself, but i would dread it if it ever came to that), let alone a Bride whos put alot of faith into a company, whos now required to take these kind fo steps to achieve the peace of mind she should have recieved the moment she signed the contract of service.

Noone wins..

As a business, i would cut my losses, provide the product as agreed at the time of contract, THEN provide high res printable images (if shot digital) If not digital,provide the Negs (this includes all copyrights to the images).
From there move forward from this.

Take it from someone who trains copious amounts of service providers who has heard almost every story in the book... Its not worth losing an entire business model over one client. Irrespective of the circumstances surrounding the problem.
If you cant sell the album, use it as a folio.
Like i said, in situations like this, forget the now and look forward, else the same thing will just happen over and over again.
Ive seen business' collapse on smaller issues like this, then to have the owners starting up again and almost always end up doing the same thing...

This affects Couples, clients, business', and more importantly the Wedding industry in general

Without regulation in the wedding industry, issues like THIS will continue to happen. For each problem you read about, theres probabaly another 10 which you hear nothing about.
Hell, jsut head to bridezilla and see how many girls are having issues...

Its issues like this that justify why the industry itself SHOULD be regulated.

If i was the customer, and i wasnt happy, i would STILL expect what i paid for according to the contract and nothing more. I wouldnt be expecting more than i paid for unless it was ofered as compensation.
However i WOULD request recompense in the form of high res images or scans,so as to at least manage your archives on your own, with no further contact with this business EVER.

Like i said, this thread should be locked, or at the least, carefully moderated, as its on a VERY thin legal line.

Just be careful guys, coz you dont want to make the situation worse than it already is.

Its in legal hands, i say leave it there.


Totally agree.Yes this lady sounds different and maybe shouldnt have posted so many of the same posts throughout the forum but some of the replies here and in other parts of teh forum arent much better!!

Mrs in 2006 has asked the lady to keep it off forum and I agree with what shes saying but that goes both ways..Im all for warning people about a dodgy business but this all may be a bit much JMO
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 06:14 PM

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Totally agree.Yes this lady sounds different and maybe shouldnt have posted so many of the same posts throughout the forum but some of the replies here and in other parts of teh forum arent much better!!

Mrs in 2006 has asked the lady to keep it off forum and I agree with what shes saying but that goes both ways..Im all for warning people about a dodgy business but this all may be a bit much JMO

Theres nothing wrong with warning anyone about company XYZ, the issue is the constant replies which can be construed as slander and defamation without a base of fact (according to law).
In court, nothing is a fact until its ruled upon and comments here suggest otherwise.

Im just concerned that this will affect the way the industry itself is looked upon, in addiiton to jeopardising the clients attempt at achieving and acquiring the archive she had originally contracted the business for.

Once its all said and done and closure has come to the fore through a court ruling, go nuts with the comments.. but before then, just be VERY careful..

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 06:19 PM

no nothing wrong at all with warning people about bad business I would do the same..That is why i said

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 06:31 PM

What will be will be. But 333 coming here and posting speratically the same thing over and over again is HARASSMENT!!! She singles out 1 person!!! She is condescending, she is patronizing...SHE IS MAKING BAD BUSINESS ONLY FOR HERSELF!!!!

Last night she just gave everyone a reason to think what they think of her now....!!! She did that to herself!!!
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