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#1 Christian Troy

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 06:40 PM

It is a chilly night in Sydney and I thought I might DIY a facial at home tonight. Anyway, I dropped into a beauty therapists to see what they might suggest for my face, you know facials leading up to the wedding etc.

I came out nearly crying! They can be so brutal. I have sun damage on my face (pigmentation) and so I wanted to know the best way to get rid of it. So this was suggested:

- Cleanser with glycolic peel ($79)
- Skin illuminator ($150)
- Eye cream (to hydrate my eyes and minimise crows feet I didn't know I had $70)
- series of microdermabrasion treatments $520
- Illuminating facials to brighten my skin $90 each (maybe two?)
- Also some light therapy (don't have a price for this one)

I thought I only had pigmentation on my forehead, but apparently also on cheeks. I also had my dark circles pointed out to me.

Is this excessive?? I really think it is. I am quite upset actually as I feel my skin is just going to look shite on the wedding day if I don't do all this.

#2 mishkathecat

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 06:49 PM

hi l&h,

it is extremely excessive. they usually sell ten products by suggesting one... you know... if you get this moisturiser then you won't get the full effect unless you use the night cream and the eye cream and the blah blah and the blah blah as well.

obviously they DO know what they are talking about to a certain extent, because they are trained in this particular field. but when you apply for positions as a beauty therapist, one of the key qualifications is "sales experience"... so if i were you, i'd get a second and third opinion. if you are really concerned about your skin, which it didn't sound like to me you were PRIOR to seeing these evil women... then go to a dermatologist... they're generally not there to promote products.

having said all that... my mum has used "oil of ulay" (or whatever its called) since she was 17, shes 49 this year and doesn't have a wrinkle or blemish on her face. in fact she has better skin than i do...

so the moral to my story is... if you already look after your skin, then don't feel like you're ugly, because im sure you're not. and hey... what else is make up for! if the make up artists know their stuff, they'll cover ANYTHING that you don't like. dark circles included.

hope you feel a little bit better. i could go on and on about this woman who works at an e!!a b@che near where i live and she has the WORST skin ever. nothing fifteen tonnes of make up doesn't cover... and SHE tried to sell ME products... pffft.

take care and have a great weekend!



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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:05 PM

What a load of SH!T!! It sounds like you went to see some CROOKS. I wouldn't believe a word of it.
Get a good foundation!! I'm sure I have half of those things you said but who gives a crap? Dark eye circles - everyone has those! Shove a bit of concealer under there! biggrin.gif

Most scientific evidence says that putting things ON your face doesn't do much. Food, un damage, stress, and pollution are the main things. Start eating better and it should do more than thousands of $$ worth of therapies. Fresh fruit and veggies, oily fish, nuts and very few things like alcohol, deep fried stuff etc is supposed to make a big difference.

I'm sure you are HOT so start smiling and you'll look heaps better already. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:08 PM

As a former senior highly trained beauty therapist, now advocator against them (in lots of things not all though), I would say she did her job exceptionally well (as far as making large sales go!). Given that beauty therapists are pressured and expected to make sales on top of their treatments, she really will be happy!

They suggest everything under the sun, regardless of real need and regardless of any solid proof that all these expensive treatments are actually worth what you pay for them. They are not dermtologists by any stretch of the imagination, and often misdiagnose skin issues. The idea is to sell it to you, because their job depends on it (or at the very least it is highly desirable and she would feel pressure to sell). So she will be the star employee now!

As for you, well you were suckered. Sorry! Yes, microdermabrasion would be good maybe, but see a qualified skin DOCTOR for assessment of whether this really is the right choice for you.

No doubt the treatments will help to a degree, but not $1000 worth of help. I do my own facials, they are fabulous, and not one product I use is worth any where near that. Also bare in mind she should have given you samples because if you react badly, especially to the glycolic, you will regret buying it even more!

As for light therapy, OMG pull out another $1000 depending on how many treatments done by whom.

Anyway, I honestly hope it works! And you are not $1000 worth of ugly either, she is just employed for another week!

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (Wippy @ Jun 2 2006, 07:05 PM)
Get a good foundation!! Dark eye circles - everyone has those! Shove a bit of concealer under there! biggrin.gif

Hear hear!

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:32 PM

Oh darling. sad.gif

They are sales pros, most of those people, with very very pricey products to sell. I really do believe that half their job is making you feel so good that you come back again, the other half is making you feel so crap that you buy all their stuff. You are so far from ugly that's its not even funny, I've only seen a few photos of you but enough to know that you're a hottie, and I'm honestly not just saying that to make you feel better!

I'm actually too scared to go to a day spa or anything because I don't want to know what they are going to tell me-I'd rather live in ignorance and start looking after my skin now with sunscreen, good products and a good diet, etc. It's all part of the plan to sell their ridiculously over priced products, make women feel vulnerable and ugly enough to spend $100. And I bet there are so many women out there who get sucked in and actually believe the things they are told. I'm not saying all beauty therapists are liars and cheats, I'm saying they know how to prey on womens' weak points to make a sale, the way all successful sales people do.
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I am quite upset actually as I feel my skin is just going to look shite on the wedding day if I don't do all this.
My point exactly! That's how they want you to feel. sad.gif

If I were you, I'd go to the Body Shop or somewhere similar and find some really nice products that will make you feel good while your using them. Do make the effort to look after your skin, but don't go getting all your skin cells sand-papered off your face just because someone told you to. And there are some amazing make up artists out there too who can make the most weather-beaten face look absolutely radiant.

Plus, your getting married! All brides are glowing and beautiful on their wedding day. Have you ever seen a bride with bad skin?
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#7 Christian Troy

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:34 PM

Thanks girls, I feel a bit better. Belladoah, I didn't actually all that stuff, in fact I didn't buy any! God my H2B would have killed me!! laugh.gif

I do agree cleansing, toning and mositurising is essentiall, but I do really also think that I need something for this pigmentation. So I will go speak to a dermatologist.

Wippy, have you got a recommendation for a concealer, because, trust me, I have tried everything and I have yet to find something really effective.

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:44 PM

OH THANKGOD!! I feel really relieved now!! Good for you!!

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Rosy @ Jun 2 2006, 07:32 PM)

I'm actually too scared to go to a day spa or anything because I don't want to know what they are going to tell me-I'd rather live in ignorance and start looking after my skin now with sunscreen, good products and a good diet, etc. It's all part of the plan to sell their ridiculously over priced products, make women feel vulnerable and ugly enough to spend $100. And I bet there are so many women out there who get sucked in and actually believe the things they are told. I'm not saying all beauty therapists are liars and cheats, I'm saying they know how to prey on womens' weak points to make a sale, the way all successful sales people do.  My point exactly! That's how they want you to feel.  sad.gif

Ha ha! Me too! I'd never go in to a place like that. I did once and the women acted so shocked that I didn't have weekly facials and peels and whatever else that I decided they were crazy and ran off.

A make up artist was shocked a few months ago that I never exfoliate. But that's ok - it is only like $10 or something from Priceline for some exfoliating stuff, and it did make a difference too.

Don't believe what people tell you, especially if they stand to profit from it. You might end up like this:



Now that's at least $1000 worth of ugly- poor lady. sad.gifuser posted image
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:46 PM

Ahhh!! If only they had just gone to priceline... ohmy.gif sad.gif

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:50 PM

Belladoah smile.gif Thanks hun

Vanessa, I can't see the pics sad.gif

How good is priceline?? I went and bought a mud mask after her recommendations, $3.45 from priceline.

I am just about to start my "At Home facial"

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:51 PM

And look a poor Farrah Fawcett. She prob had some dark eye circles and pigmentation and uneven skin tone and whatever else... What a difference 6 years makes and a few thousand $$.

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 07:54 PM

Can you see them now? They were there and then they went away, so I edited them back. Ok?
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 09:02 PM

ahh see... you're not ugly! and that lady at the shop will be told by a few angry i-doers that she was just mean!!!!

you know, facials are only fun when champagne is involved... and to hell with it if alcohol is bad for your skin. if you drink enough of it - you won't care! smile.gif

now i'm going to go complain to the mirror about MY dark circles...

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 09:10 PM

Thanks Rosy, that is really sweet of you to say smile.gif

Vanessa, nope, it just says "user posted image"




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