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#1 bmee

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 08:36 AM

Hi All,

I know that this section doesn't seem to get that many posts anymore, but again, I'm seeing a fertility specialist with LTTC issues so this is really the only real fit for where post.

Anyway, went to go and start a cycle with the FS. On the 8th of Jan 2014 went and had a scan and blood work and he advised that my lining looked beautiful and that I was about to ovulate. Follicle 1.8 in size. He didn't pin point a date though. For those who may know of my journey, my partner and I decided to go against the grain and try for a munchkin with the knowledge that I was going to ovulate in the next few days.

7 days ago today I started spotting. (here is the TMI part) It was old blood (brown) to start out with. My boobs were feeling a little more solid and were a little tender. By day 4 the spotting was still brown with a pinkish tinge to it. And today (day 7) it's back to what it started (brown spotting).

So yesterday I went to the FS to say that I thought I was pregnant but was spotting. That morning, I did a HPT with FMU and it was a really faint positive (you know those positives where you squint your eyes and feel like an idiot?). He performed a test, he got his receptionist to with an internet cheapie at 4pm and when I had peed like 30 minutes before hand. He also charged me $25 for it. My boobs don't hurt anymore, aren't as solid as they were.

Having a stubborn attitude and not wanting to just give up, I took another test this morning with first response. Faint positive, not squinting required. Spotting starting to settle down.

I don't think I'm looking for people who have been through something similar, because I'm hoping none of you have. I guess that I'm trying to find advice on what I should do next.

I've been taking Elevit for about 2 months now, so that's not a problem. I don't smoke, and haven't had a drink in months, I try and eat well, but have been really lazy lately.

My plan is to leave things alone for this long weekend and if I'm still getting positive tests until monday then I will go to a GP for a HCG Beta.

Has anyone got any advice for me?

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 08:53 AM

Not quite the same but i had spotting and bleeding for weeks with my DS. I didn't click that I was pregnant until further along but I've seen many forum posts over the years with your symptoms and it could honestly go either way. You could splurge on one of those digital tests?

For the record, don't get to caught up in appearing and disappearing symptoms-i didn't get my first definite symptoms till around 5-6 weeks. Just keep peeing with FMU and maybe get a beta HCG test.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE(jantastic @ Jan 25 2014, 08:53 AM) View Post

Not quite the same but i had spotting and bleeding for weeks with my DS. I didn't click that I was pregnant until further along but I've seen many forum posts over the years with your symptoms and it could honestly go either way. You could splurge on one of those digital tests?

For the record, don't get to caught up in appearing and disappearing symptoms-i didn't get my first definite symptoms till around 5-6 weeks. Just keep peeing with FMU and maybe get a beta HCG test.


Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate it. When I did the HPT this morning with First Response it was positive (faint). So I went and got a clear blue digi and it was negative. I'm not quite sure about the sensitivity on both and if they are the same...

I've got one more digi so I'm going to leave that until Monday. If the First Response keeps getting darker (I have heaps of those) then I'll revert to the digi.

The positive and negative test could have something to do with the sensitivity of each test also€


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:47 AM

Like Jantastic, I had spotting with one of my pregnancies but was a couple of weeks further on. I've also had spotting when I haven't been pregnant though so it wasnt until I tested a couple of times (the second time with a digital test) that I was certain I was pregnant.

I'm not sure why you want to punch your FS in the face though? It's early days, as hard as it is I think you just have to wait and see. Good luck.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:55 AM

I had brown spotting with both pregnancies, that's pretty normal. I'd wait a bit and then test again. Fingers crossed you keep getting BFPs!
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:24 AM

QUOTE(Gretch @ Jan 25 2014, 09:47 AM) View Post

Like Jantastic, I had spotting with one of my pregnancies but was a couple of weeks further on. I've also had spotting when I haven't been pregnant though so it wasnt until I tested a couple of times (the second time with a digital test) that I was certain I was pregnant.

I'm not sure why you want to punch your FS in the face though? It's early days, as hard as it is I think you just have to wait and see. Good luck.


Your right, punching in the face is probably over the top.

Initially I was annoyed that the fertility specialist charged me $25 for an Internet cheapie test and asked the receptionist to perform the test and to send me on my way if it was negative. But upon reflection I'm angry because last time I was in his office was with bleeding at 14 days after an iui with a positive HPT and hcg beta which was low. Yesterday I went in with spotting that started at 10 dpo and was still going and a positive HPT at home. I was honestly expecting him to at least give me a slip for hcg to be done.

Maybe that's me being silly. I don't know.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:49 AM

QUOTE(bluenomi @ Jan 25 2014, 09:55 AM) View Post

I had brown spotting with both pregnancies, that's pretty normal. I'd wait a bit and then test again. Fingers crossed you keep getting BFPs!


I really like hearing that people have experienced the same thing. I am going to keep testing throughout the weekend and just hope it gets darker.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:17 PM

I got my first BFP at around 9dpo (very faint) but started spotting a day or two later - my spotting actually got MUCH worse (I actually had three very heavy bleeds between 5 & 7 weeks) but even while the spotting got heavier the tests got darker (although there were one or two lighter ones as well depending on when I tested)

I never realised how common spotting was until I mentioned it here, in my case it wasn't just normal pregnancy spotting it was a blood clot on the uterine wall, but even with the bleeding I had my little one managed to hold on thankfully.

I think I'd be disappointed in the FS as well, given your history you would have thought further testing was appropriate - for your own well being if nothing else.

Good luck, I hope those lines are getting darker.
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:23 PM

Sounds promising! Have you got a partner now? That's great. smile.gif best of luck with your BFP.
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:27 PM

I have spotted and even bled in all of my pregnancies. Two (and by far the worst bleed) resulted in Sophie (6) and Ethan (4). Others in losses. It's a difficult time but all you can do is wait and hope.

How many DPO are you? FFIW false POSITIVES (edited - said negatives before which was a silly brain malfunction) are very uncommon. You may be having a touch of implantation bleeding.

In defence of your FS, I doubt very much that he used internet cheapies, rather medical ones that don't come with all the fancy plastic wrappings either. Maybe he just sent you on your way to wait and see over the next couple of weeks? If he suspects a chemical pregnancy, expensive hcg tests won't really help. Alterntively, you may have got a negative as it wasn't a first morning wee. You'll know for sure in a week or two. I was LTTTC with fertility issues and a history of losses but not once have I been offered hcg tests. FS's are expensive people to see. Try not to stress yourself over it.

I have always found internet cheapies to be incredibly sensitive. The chemicals and dyes don't make them cheap it's the reduced cost in not having the plastic housing. You will find yourself peeing on a lot of stick in this journey - even if you're pregnant I did it every day for at least two weeks, several times a day sometimes. It might be worth getting a stash wink.gif

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:41 PM

I had a few days of spotting before I got my positive. I thought it was my usual pre-period spotting, then the period didn't show!
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE(L's Angel @ Jan 25 2014, 12:17 PM) View Post

I got my first BFP at around 9dpo (very faint) but started spotting a day or two later - my spotting actually got MUCH worse (I actually had three very heavy bleeds between 5 & 7 weeks) but even while the spotting got heavier the tests got darker (although there were one or two lighter ones as well depending on when I tested)

I never realised how common spotting was until I mentioned it here, in my case it wasn't just normal pregnancy spotting it was a blood clot on the uterine wall, but even with the bleeding I had my little one managed to hold on thankfully.

I think I'd be disappointed in the FS as well, given your history you would have thought further testing was appropriate - for your own well being if nothing else.

Good luck, I hope those lines are getting darker.


I'm glad that I'm not alone. Will keep everyone posted how the line goes smile.gif

QUOTE(Arial @ Jan 25 2014, 12:23 PM) View Post

Sounds promising! Have you got a partner now? That's great. smile.gif best of luck with your BFP.


Hey Arial – I’ve had a partner for nearly 3 years (after divorce). He said that he didn’t want any more children and I was fine with this. When I went back to the FS he told me that he would regret it for the rest of our lives if he didn’t at least try. So we DTD and now I’m writing these posts. It’s not the way that I had planned everything, however we’ve been together for such a long time that I’m not worried. We’re in a pretty good place to be honest and he’s quite excited about everything but also knows that the test is still faint and anything can happen.


QUOTE(flowerrose @ Jan 25 2014, 12:27 PM) View Post

I have spotted and even bled in all of my pregnancies. Two (and by far the worst bleed) resulted in Sophie (6) and Ethan (4). Others in losses. It's a difficult time but all you can do is wait and hope.

How many DPO are you? FFIW false POSITIVES (edited - said negatives before which was a silly brain malfunction) are very uncommon. You may be having a touch of implantation bleeding.

In defence of your FS, I doubt very much that he used internet cheapies, rather medical ones that don't come with all the fancy plastic wrappings either. Maybe he just sent you on your way to wait and see over the next couple of weeks? If he suspects a chemical pregnancy, expensive hcg tests won't really help. Alterntively, you may have got a negative as it wasn't a first morning wee. You'll know for sure in a week or two. I was LTTTC with fertility issues and a history of losses but not once have I been offered hcg tests. FS's are expensive people to see. Try not to stress yourself over it.

I have always found internet cheapies to be incredibly sensitive. The chemicals and dyes don't make them cheap it's the reduced cost in not having the plastic housing. You will find yourself peeing on a lot of stick in this journey - even if you're pregnant I did it every day for at least two weeks, several times a day sometimes. It might be worth getting a stash wink.gif


And thank you for your information flowerrose. Like I said above, it’s nice to hear that I’m not alone. To be perfectly honest, I’m not too sure how many DPO I am. I went to the FS on 8 Jan 2014 and he said that everything looked nice and I was about to ovulate. Then yesterday he advised that the blood work I had on 20 Jan 2014 confirms that I ovulated. I would estimate that I would be between 13 – 16 DPO (if I had to guess). It could have been implantation bleeding however it was fairly constant and there were a few old blood clots. I know, you’re probably thinking that I’m crazy. I think that it is just all old blood disappearing though. I think my cycle prior to this was like 93 days or so.

I initially thought the same thing with the internet cheapies with the fertility specialist. I thought, there is no way that they could be using just cheap things, so I asked. The receptionist took me out the back to the room that they had the tests and the patient files and showed me. I said that it looks like the same ones that I use to have at home that I got off ebay. She said that they are probably the same ones only a different seller. I was kinda shocked to be honest. And I know that HCG tests are expensive, but to be perfectly honest, for peace of mind to know if I have a sticky egg or if I am miscarrying I would prefer to pay the amount to know definitively.

I did pick up a whole lot of First Response tests from an online chemist knowing that I was going to start TTC again. I think I paid $30 (including postage) for 15 of them. I thought that was cheap. If I am UTD I will probably just look at giving anything left over away.

As long as the line keeps getting stronger. That’s what I keep telling myself.

But I keep having these little niggling feelings. It’s not cramping by any stretch of the imagination but it’s hard to explain. It’s kinda the same tingly feeling you get when someone runs their hands up and down your back, only it’s in my uterus. Who knows what it is. LOL

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:06 PM

Drs are reluctant to do hcg tests this early because the numbers will be low and will do your head in. For my last pregnancy I did many tests and asked my gp to do hcg for me. She was reluctant to do so but due to my slightly neurotic state she did it. I took those numbers to my previous PBS who told me they were too low and I should wait to miscarry. Turns out I ovulated a few days later than I thought so the hcg was significantly lower than everyone thought it should for my dates. If I had waited a week the bloods would've shown a nice number.

Totally understand where you are at tho. I'm sure I have additional frown lines from all the squinting at Internet cheapies.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE(beachgurl @ Jan 25 2014, 03:06 PM) View Post

Drs are reluctant to do hcg tests this early because the numbers will be low and will do your head in. For my last pregnancy I did many tests and asked my gp to do hcg for me. She was reluctant to do so but due to my slightly neurotic state she did it. I took those numbers to my previous PBS who told me they were too low and I should wait to miscarry. Turns out I ovulated a few days later than I thought so the hcg was significantly lower than everyone thought it should for my dates. If I had waited a week the bloods would've shown a nice number.

Totally understand where you are at tho. I'm sure I have additional frown lines from all the squinting at Internet cheapies.


And you are spot on the mark in this instance also. All we know for certain is that I ovulated between the 8th when we saw the follicle and the 20th when I had blood work done to see if I ovulated.

I'm sure that we all have those little squint lines lol

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 06:43 PM


Good to see you here smile.gif

I'm another who spotted in the early weeks of pregnancy with DD1. It was brown but I also had other stuff which turned out to be wall lining. Enough to send me around the bend so I can only imagine how you're feeling. It's a shame your FS's bedside manner was lacking - sometimes all you want is the reassurance.

Shall keep everything crossed for you x




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