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#16 KittyKatz

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:54 PM

I'm a teacher at a big school- we'll have 9 kindy classes in 2013. A my school, parents rarely get a say which class their child gets placed in for the following year. Parents do occasionally put in requests to the Principal, but unless its a serious matter, requests are not followed through.

As teachers, we literally spend hours placing kids in our year group into classes for the following year. We mainly consider which which kids would work well with which teacher, which teacher would have the necessary discipline strategies required for particular children with difficulties, and we make sure we place kids who don't work/ play we'll together into separate classes.

A lot happens at school which obviously parents just don't see, so requests are often not appropriate. Lots of thought and time goes into placing kids into what we think we will be the best match for them the following year.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE(tastebud @ Nov 7 2012, 08:10 PM) View Post

This. I suspected this was the protocol but am still somewhat disappointed sad.gif

For example. In my wider circle I happen to know of three separate child friendships which could be deemed hmmmm .... unhealthy. I've noticed some kids are capable of stalking thier "friend". Being possessive of them etc.

If my child was being stalked by one such child, and his / her parent then requested they be in a class together? While I'm highly unlikely to be the one writing any initial letter I would most certainly like a say so. Why does this parent get a "say" and I do not? Unless I get in first or create a drama when the class list comes out? Hmmmm.


If you know of such an issue with your child I'd suggest talking to the school and letting them know the issue. Then they can take whatever steps are appropriate. And if you flag it with them then they'd also be able to keep an eye out for it and do what they can.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:44 PM

Thanks KittyKatz for that insight. What you're describing is what I would hope and expect. This is also a larger school.

I guess what truly bothers me is the individuality of the cases I know of. What about me? What about my child?

These are kindergarten kids, who haven't even had a chance to step foot in the school yet. And certain cats are requesting & rejecting classmates and teachers? Please.

Thanks guys. I'm obviously of a different ilk and very possibly will be needing those wishes of good luck!
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Porthos @ Nov 7 2012, 06:50 PM) View Post

It could have caused a real scrag fight with the 'car park mafia' .......




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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:08 PM

I completely understand the angst. But hang in there and know that a sensible approach will benefit your child far more than any amount of jockeying for advantage.

While parental preferences may hold some sway in kindergarten, once the kids move into year 1 and beyond the school will know the kids and have witnessed the dynamics themselves, and that's likely to form the basis of the class structures.

We just received a document from our school outlining the class placement policy for next year. Apparently they used to ask children to nominate a couple of friends they would like to be placed with. From this year they are abandoning that practice so that classes are based around educational principles rather than friendship preferences.

Having watched my daughter be placed in a class where she knew nobody I have seen how much she flourished and the growth in her confidence as she realised that she could make new friends. Having seen her placed in the "undesirable" class with a third of kids needing assistance from the ESL teacher and at least one child who spoke no English at all, she is doing brilliantly and absolutely loves school. I'm delighted that after her preschool which was dominated by blonde haired blue eyed kids, she is now surrounded by children of various cultural and religious backgrounds.

Sometimes, we parents need to step back and let the system work as the results are often surprising.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

Sorry, not much to add - other than nodding enthusiastically with those dissing the 'me, me, ME!' Mentality of some parents.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:46 PM

Such an interesting discussion!

I for one wouldn't have even considered poking my nose into what the school thought best, unless there was a particular issue (i.e. I was moved out of my grade 2 class because I was pretty much being picked on or ostracised by the teacher sad.gif - my parents did intervene in this case).

I think the best thing a parent can do for their child is to build up their ability to cope and thrive in a variety of situations. Having them always trying to fit them into the 'optimal' environment isn't quite preparing them for the reality of life beyond school.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:20 AM

QUOTE(tastebud @ Nov 7 2012, 09:44 PM) View Post



These are kindergarten kids, who haven't even had a chance to step foot in the school yet. And certain cats are requesting & rejecting classmates and teachers? Please.




I feel exactly the same way as you Tastebud. You will be surprised at how full on some parents can be though....I actually feel sorry for their kids as they think they are helping, but what they are doing is not really going to help in the long run...kids have to learn to stand on their own two feet wink.gif

QUOTE(tastebud @ Nov 7 2012, 09:59 PM) View Post

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You chuckle away laugh.gif Next year when G hits prep you will witness the car park mafia for yourself...it is force to be reckoned with for sure!!


QUOTE(Mel B @ Nov 7 2012, 11:08 PM) View Post

I completely understand the angst. But hang in there and know that a sensible approach will benefit your child far more than any amount of jockeying for advantage.

While parental preferences may hold some sway in kindergarten, once the kids move into year 1 and beyond the school will know the kids and have witnessed the dynamics themselves, and that's likely to form the basis of the class structures.

We just received a document from our school outlining the class placement policy for next year. Apparently they used to ask children to nominate a couple of friends they would like to be placed with. From this year they are abandoning that practice so that classes are based around educational principles rather than friendship preferences.

Having watched my daughter be placed in a class where she knew nobody I have seen how much she flourished and the growth in her confidence as she realised that she could make new friends. Having seen her placed in the "undesirable" class with a third of kids needing assistance from the ESL teacher and at least one child who spoke no English at all, she is doing brilliantly and absolutely loves school. I'm delighted that after her preschool which was dominated by blonde haired blue eyed kids, she is now surrounded by children of various cultural and religious backgrounds.

Sometimes, we parents need to step back and let the system work as the results are often surprising.


I couldn't agree with you more Mel smile.gif And I am thrilled to hear Rosie is thriving at school...without any intervention from her mum either, imagine that?! rolleyes.gif wink.gif





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