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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:37 PM

You are doing a great job!!!!

Be warned, if it is a lot of work for your MIL to get him to sleep she may just give in. Thankfully my two weren't too bad by the time she got them, however I know my SIL had an issue with her as she would give in a rock her two to sleep sad.gif Maybe get DH to make sure she understands just how important it is that she does as you ask.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:42 PM

My DH works around the corner from their house. He is going to go to theirs this Thursday when it's Alex's nap time to do it with her the first time.

If she gives in and rocks him I will be so upset.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:05 PM

It sounds like you are all doing fantastically well.

He definitely sounds like he is making progress. Just remember what was said about a possible regression on Day 2-4. Really stick to your guns if that happens and it should keep improving thereafter. And hopefully the letting go of the hand phase should be the hardest. Moving your chair away sould prove a bit easier.

As for the early morning waking. Do you think he could be cold? 5am is a pretty common time for them to wake if they are cold. Could try adding 1 more blanket and see if that helps. When mine went through periods of early waking I ended up having to just leave them to protest as nothing else seems to get them back to sleep. It usually took a week or so of those morning protests and then they would be back to sleeping later. I don't know if it was boundary testing or what.

You are doing a great job. Keep at it.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:03 AM

Hi there

He has been up since 4am. He has on summer PJ's and a sheet, his room is 26 degrees.
He appears asleep and I have tried leaving 3 times now and with minutes he is awake screaming for me to come back.
I am so tired it makes me want to cry. I just want to go to bed.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:20 AM

He finally fell asleep at 5.30am and then he slept for another hour and a half. My husband got up as he needed to go to work, and we agreed to leave Alex in the cot as he was 'calling' for us but not upset and he had found the toys I had placed in his bed the night before. DH had a shower and when he got out Alex was well and truly ready to get out so he got him out and he gave him his morning bottle on his fold out lounge with his cartoons on and I got up at 7.45 when DH left for work.

I suppose he will still need a morning nap around 10-10.30am due to his broken sleep this morning.

Sitting up for an hr and a half at that time of the morning feels absolutely ludicrous! Lol
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:09 AM

I know what you mean...the difference between 4 am and 5 am astounds me. Sounds like you're doing a great job. Leaving him to play a bit is good too-we did that and now ds often plays in his cot for a long time before calling us. We still often start our day around 530-6 am.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:30 AM

QUOTE(jantastic @ Jan 31 2012, 09:09 AM) View Post

I know what you mean...the difference between 4 am and 5 am astounds me. Sounds like you're doing a great job. Leaving him to play a bit is good too-we did that and now ds often plays in his cot for a long time before calling us. We still often start our day around 530-6 am.


Probably a crazy question but when your day starts at 5.30 what do you do? Do you guys play at that hour or have quite time reading? Do you start breakfast or wait until the usual time? My CHN was more inclined not to have food earlier as she said it would help cement the habit of waking at that time for milk or breakfast.

When I have been up with him at 5am I have put ABC2 on and just sat there trying to wake up for half an hr. plus he is super whingy because he hasn't had enough sleep.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:43 AM

Just wanted to say you are doing a great job and hang in there, it will get better! We went through a similiar thing with DS when he was younger and he wanted to be patted off to sleep every night, and also when he woke a few times overnight. I did exaclty the same thing as you.... phoned Tresillian help line and found they were fantastic. Followed their advice and he improved dramatically, no more patting biggrin.gif

DS was also an early riser and loved a 530am wake up wacko.gif We started having to being a bit stricter with this (once the above probelm was sorted) so we made a rule that we would not get him up till 6am. Once 6am came we got him up and went about the usual morning routine starting with breakfast. I do think that this helped too as after a while he only woke up/ let us know he was awake after 6. One thing at a time though...

You are doing a great job, I know it is not easy but will will all be worth it xx
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:54 AM

So should I be getting up with him at 5am or putting him back to sleep?
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE(sarah2010 @ Jan 31 2012, 09:54 AM) View Post

So should I be getting up with him at 5am or putting him back to sleep?


It really depends on when you decide it is morning time and to go into the morning routine.... for us, we decided that 6am was the earliest we were happy to start the day so to speak, so decided on this. For some people it may be 530 as it works for them.... regardless of the time of say it is, I would say pick a time and stick to it, any earlier than that, then its back to sleep.

It will be nice when we can actually have that conversation with our little ones along the lines of "If its still dark outside, then its back to sleep!" tongue.gif
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE(truffles @ Jan 31 2012, 11:53 AM) View Post

It really depends on when you decide it is morning time and to go into the morning routine.... for us, we decided that 6am was the earliest we were happy to start the day so to speak, so decided on this. For some people it may be 530 as it works for them.... regardless of the time of say it is, I would say pick a time and stick to it, any earlier than that, then its back to sleep.

It will be nice when we can actually have that conversation with our little ones along the lines of "If its still dark outside, then its back to sleep!" tongue.gif

Until its summertime and the sun rises early then we get from our 3.5yo "Sun's up, I'm up" lol cheeky sod.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:08 PM

I don't really have any advice because I have an early riser too (have tried everything and have just had to resign myself to early mornings) and wanted to sympathise with you smile.gif.

Our day will normally start anywhere from 4.45-5.30am wacko.gif. I've tried on countless occasions to resettle her but she just won't go back to sleep and if she does, I'd probably have to end up waking her to get to work on time anyway.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE(truffles @ Jan 31 2012, 12:53 PM) View Post

It will be nice when we can actually have that conversation with our little ones along the lines of "If its still dark outside, then its back to sleep!" tongue.gif


Oh wouldn't that be nice!!!

I saw the GroClock in mothercare yesterday. But I think Alex could be too young to understand that we stay asleep until it shows the sun. It also has an alarm on it.

I have had a suggestion of setting an alarm for 5.15am and just not going into his room until it goes off. And when he gets used to that move the alarm back 15 mins... And then 15 more and so forth until its at what we consider a 'respectable' hour.

My husband and I would much prefer sleeping in than being early risers. If we were naturally earlier risers maybe this wouldn't bother me so much! But 4am is totally ridiculous. Lol

Oh and for his day naps today I moved the chair away from touching his cot to being a bit over 90cms away. He really didn't seem to notice/care.

He just had to make sure I was in the room and then went about putting himself to sleep. So if it's like that tonight I will move the chair again tomorrow for his day naps.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:51 PM

When Jack was that age he used to wake up at 4.30 - 5.00 too. He did it for about a month and it would drive us batty. We would just lie down next to his bed and he'd sometimes drift back off but a lot of the time wouldn't so we'd get him up and have some quiet time. Breakfast was never earlier than 6 though.

I'm not sure what changed (does anyone ever know rolleyes.gif ) but he started sleeping through to 6.30 regularly.

That said, we had a 5.30 wake up call this morning, but it was very hot in Sydney last night so I think that probably had something to do with it.

Good luck with it. You are doing a great job smile.gif
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:08 PM

MissNic - I'm in Sydney too and the heat and humidity has coincided with this new routine change. Typical huh! Maybe that is having something to do with it?
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