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#1 mango

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 08:27 AM

Hi ladies,
just a couple of quick questions regarding sleeping. My DD could self settle but for some reason seems to be struggling with that now. I can get her a sleep other ways but they require picking her up and she wont transfer back down so it defeats the purpose. She is not even letting me pat her to sleep in the basinett. Did anyone elses bubba suddenly change? What did you do and did they go back to SS on their own or assisted in the basinett?

And another question at 9weeks/2months how long was your bubbas awake time?
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#2 Tigridia

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 11:34 AM

Jazy, not sure about the self settling really as Astrid only does that some of the time anyway. On the sleep time though Astrid is now 3 months and she still does 1.5 hours to 2 hours max of awake time. She does a little longer after 4 pm, closer to 2.30-2.45 as I don't let her sleep after 5 to get her down by 7. Generally though she is showing tired signs by 1.5 hours so it's off to bed with her.
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:25 PM

Eliza is almost 4 months old now, and she is awake 1-2 hours at a time. She will go longer if we are out in the pram, but as soon as she starts to show tired signs I take her to bed.
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:29 PM

Ok so being 2months barely going 1 hour between sleeps is pretty average. Its been too long since I had a little one I vaguely remember bits.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:38 PM

that sounds about right from memory. Even now there are days where Eliza doesn't go a full hour between sleep, just depends on how she is feeling

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 04:39 PM

I think you will find that daytime sleep cycles kick in at around 6-8 weeks old. So it is when they "wake up" so to speak and are a lot more aware of the difference between putting themselves to sleep and someone helping them do it. I would hazard a guess that this might be why she has changed recently.

As for awake time. Both of mine were doing around 1.25 - 1.5 hours at that age. So 1 hour seems pretty normal I would say.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:09 PM

Right, I'm now struggling. Why does she just scream at me instead of going to sleep? I'm exhausted of it taking an hour to get her to sleep. Then she only sleeps for 45-60mins tops. Man I really suck at this newborn gig. While I'm at it feeding is shoot because of her stupid sleep cycles and reflux, not to forget her terrible wind. Why must it be so freaking hard?!

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:56 PM

Oscar suffers from really bad wind. For me to burp him the easiest way is sit him on my knee, cup his chin in one hand, jiggle my knee and pat his back, normally burps in less than 30 seconds. He wakes very early in the morning with pains as he need to fart, for this I lay him on his back hold his feet in my hand and roll his legs in, farts straigh away, he normally does 10 though.

Such a shock as Angus never would burp.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 10:28 AM

Oh Jazy, I have no advice because I suck at the newborn thing too, but just wanted to say I'm sorry to hear you are having a rough time. sad.gif

Is the crying etc overnight as well? Or just during the day?

Eli has bad wind as well and Infacol really helps him. We were away for the day once and forgot to bring it and really noticed the difference! A teaspoon of cooled boiled water also helps bring up the wind.

The other thing that helps him during the day is having the exhaust fan going on the rangehood on its loudest setting, the white noise helps to soothe him. He screams at any other white noise, like static or the vacuum cleaner.
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 01:13 PM

Ok ladies I'm back here. Instead of starting a new topic thought I would just add to this.

I'm exhausted and really am at breaking point. I have a constant headache from what I think is lack of sleep. I'm foggy, grumpy, impatient, angry and snappy. I'm not going out much because I don't want to drive because I'm so tired I'm afraid I'm going to have an accident with the kiddies. My body aches. I need help, Aly needs help but I just don't know what to do anymore. I refuse to go to sleep school or see MCHNs since they screwed things up so bad with my son. I really need sleep but for some reason I can't value myself enough (or important enough) to ask others for help. I hate the idea of asking someone to come over to watch my kids while I go sleep. It just doesn't sit right with me...but then I would be more then happy to do it for any of my friends if they needed it.

I have barely slept in the last few weeks (well to be honest since she was born) but the long hours trying to settle her in the middle of the night is pushing me over the edge, and I can't nap during the day because DS is so full on - which is another reason why I would feel so bad asking someone to come over to watch him.

The problem is Aly can SS brilliantly with a dummy but she only sleeps 1 sleep cycle at a time during the day and at night she had started to wake not even hourly for it. So at 2:30am Monday morning (after getting up 6 times in 2hours) I had enough and vowed never to give it back to her thinking it was the reason she wasn't able to move through sleep cycles...even though now thinking about it she would often still have it in her mouth when she woke up.

Settling her has been hit and miss without the dummy and the nights are still long. I would of thought by now things would start to improve but they seem to be getting worse. Her reflux has flared ten fold, and as of today I have taken to cuddling her to sleep because she is constantly chucking up acid and smells horrible. I don't have the heart to lie her down and force her to go to sleep while watching her scream. I'm sure she is in pain again. Its terrible.

I have been patting her to sleep in the cot but settling time is getting longer and screaming more full on, rocking in the pram (last night I rocked her for 2 hours, feed her then went on to rock her for another hour before I was able to go to sleep) and now cuddling now that I know its reflux again.

Argh I hate whinging about my kids sleep, especially now she is number 2 and I had a pretty good idea what I was getting myself into this time, but I really didn't think things would get this bad. I thought I would have better control over everything this time. But yet again I feel so helpless and out of depth again.

I just don't know what to do for her anymore other then what I am already doing. I can't understand why her reflux has gotten so bad again since taking the dummy away. I wonder if I'm expecting to much from her sleep-wise. She has 2-3 naps during the day of 45mins usually and at night she goes down at 7, wakes at 11 (her only decent sleep in 24hours) has a very little feed, then up down all night until 6:30/7am. She gets tired around the 1hr45 mark, I often try to push her to the 2hour mark because otherwise the evening is VERY long.

Ok vent over...I feel a little better getting that all out.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:11 PM

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time sad.gif

When Seth was diagnosed with reflux I remember reading that a dummy can be a great aide for reflux babies as the sucking on the dummy helps them swallow more and keep the vomit down...not sure how true that is because I could never actually get Seth to take a dummy but it makes sense. Also I noticed that whenever Seth was teething his reflux seemed to flare up a bit more.

Is she on medication? Do you have her cot / bassinette raised? Having Seth's bed raised helped a huge amount.



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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

Thanks for the reply. We had another terrible night last night. I have been to see the dr and we are trying a different med (was zoton, now losec). He said its up to me weather I give the dummy back for a little or not and rewean once losec is working. I guess I'll wait and see if we really needed it.He thinks she needs to move to her own room and no long in ours. He also said its worth trying her on her belly to sleep when I asked him. Actually he seemed to fob off all sids recommendations and called MCHNs Nazis. ohmy.gif It was quite surprising. Hes of the belief that its more of a SIDS risk if she continues the way she is and being so over tired and that SIDS risk in general is so small. Interesting and more food for thought.

We do have her bed raised but hasn't helped much. She is better when shes sitting fairly up in either rocker or pram.




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