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#1 HayleyNZ

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:02 PM

After having the most perfect night sleeper, 7pm-7am from 7 weeks, DS is waking up 5:30-5:45am every morning. He is nearly 8 months old.

I think it has been going on for about 6-7 weeks. I didn't notice at first because I have since discovered from looking at his monitor (I normally have it off or covered up beside my bed) that he just lies there awake and bats at his comforter. He starts grizzling about 6:20 and I thought I could cope with that. However, is is so so tired ALL day so I suspected it was actually earlier. He is tired the minute I get him up and I think its all starting to accumulate because he appears tireder and tireder and less able to cope with the day.

Cold
He in the past has laid there awake for hours when he is too cold. I have sorted this I think and he had gone to sleep the minute I turned up the heat. However the last couple of mornings he may have been too hot?? Is anyone elses baby this temperature sensitive?

Hunger
Possibly?? He usually will not go down at night if he hasn't had the amount of food he wants. It might be possible the food I have been giving him will not sustain him through the night? I don't feed him till he refuses because he never refuses! Then he won't take his milk. It might be time to up his food intake?

Day sleeps
He normally has 2-4 hours sleep in the day time in 2-3 sleeps. If he really needs the 4pm one I give it but if he skips it, I put him to bed at 6:30 (which has made no difference to his wakeup time). He has 2- 2.5 hours between sleeps.

Light and noise
It is lighter in the mornings and we live on the farm and the vehicles go past his window at 5:30, maybe he thinks its time to get up? Though it doesn't bother him during the day.

Any suggestions? I wouldn't care, as he doesn't complain but he is so so tired!
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:09 PM


Hmm, everything I would think too first you've already thought of!

To rule out temperature if you can I'd keep his room at a constant comfortable temp (20-22) and see if that has any effect.

Food- is he having milk close enough to bedtime? Is he eating 3 meals a day yet, and if so, does he eat a decent amount at dinner?

Day sleeps sound ok to me at his age. I often find with my son the more sleep he gets, the better he sleeps at night. You'd think it would be the opposite but that's what he's like.

Noise- maybe he is just getting more conscious of the noise and light. Perhaps if you rule out everything else try a blackout blind?

Apart from these things if he's doing a long block of sleep could he be overly wet in the nappy and this waking him up?



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Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:31 AM

I feel your pain wacko.gif I have been doing the 5am battle for nearly 2 years!
I have tried EVERYTHING from food, to heater to more layers to blockout blinds and nothing works, sometimes we get a random 6am IF I am lucky! I have finally accepted that it is the way it is. Makes for a very long day thou sleep.gif

Maybe he is getting to much sleep during the day?

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:48 PM

Its horrible having to be awake early. But sorry, I am going to be no help to you at all.

My kids have both gone thru periods of waking early - from 5am. They usually come into bed with me for snuggles until 6am when I am ready to get up biggrin.gif Not much room in bed with 4 of us in there, but its the only way some days!

Recently both have been sleeping in until after 6am which is AMAZING! From talking to friends with kids it seems pretty normal for some kids to be awake from 5am, especially if they went to bed at 7pm. Its something I have learnt to live with, and I know once they are teenagers I will be dragging them out of bed laugh.gif

The only thing I can think of suggesting is maybe give him a quick milk feed when he first wakes and maybe he will sleep another hour or more.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:39 PM

I've just learn to accept that she wakes early and have gotten used to it. It's much better now than it used to be. She was waking around 4.30am for quite a while there, but now it's usually 5.30-6am. On the very odd occasion I'll get a 6.30 sleep in.


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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:52 PM

I have recently been convincing Eddie to have a sleep-in with me in the mornings - if he wakes early (he's had a bad cough so waking 1-2 hours earlier than normal) I bring him to bed with me to feed him, and I've been feeding lying on my side and it's nice and dark in our room and about 1/2 the time he has another nap with me in bed which makes us both happy biggrin.gif

Apart from that, it seems like you've covered all the bases. It'll be interesting to see if he goes a little later when daylight savings starts - it is getting very light very early here now smile.gif
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 08:20 AM

Try blacking out the windows.

Will started waking at 5.30 at some point and I hung up a black piece of polar fleece to cover all the gaps and it worked immediately!

I've got to put it back up again as the boys have started waking before 6am again - and Angus is exhausted by 9am! (Doesn't help that he doesn't go to sleep till close to 9pm often).

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 10:23 AM

What time is his first morning sleep? This might sound strange but someone suggested to me when my boy started waking earler than 7, that I shift his first morning sleep later. Next thing you know he started going back to 7am wake ups!
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 01:51 PM

I have an early riser too. Ethan is up at 5.30am and I give him a bottle then he'll either go back to sleep (very rarely) or make a fuss until I get up. I'm lucky I am an early riser too but in winter it sucks!
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 02:05 PM

You have all given me lots to think about/try out.

I have changed his nappy a few times, he is more settled but mostly still not going back to sleep I even got up and fed him ph34r.gif but he didn't really want it, he went back to sleep because he had a nice full tum but woke at 7 and had a feed then like normal.

Some days a nappy change works, some days an extra blanket works huh.gif Most of the time it doesn't and I don't want to go in there and intervene as although he is really good and doesn't want attention, I am afraid he will get used to me going in there. I think it might be a matter of mastering the right combo of air temp and blankets. Our heat pump wasn't working properly as the filters needing cleaning, duh!

I guess the main thing is he doesn't want attention from me! wink.gif But its hard looking at the monitor because he does try to go back to sleep, he looks like he even is back asleep for up to 10-20 mins but no he starts moving again.

I will try the blackout blinds and Koolkat, just delay the morning sleep by half an hour? He is so exhausted come 9am though, I am not sure how he would go but I will give it a try!

Thanks heaps for the suggestions! My feeling is is that it is either another blanket or the light coming in. I'll let you know how I get on!
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE(HayleyNZ @ Sep 4 2011, 02:05 PM) View Post


I will try the blackout blinds and Koolkat, just delay the morning sleep by half an hour? He is so exhausted come 9am though, I am not sure how he would go but I will give it a try!


I think it was Monica that helped me with this tip and she said just 15 minutes, which for us was all we could hang out for because C was exhausted by the time nap time arrived. You could increase it by another 15 minutes after a couple days if he starts getting used to it.

Good luck smile.gif
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:26 PM

Are you following SOS? I might have you confused with someone else though blush.gif

It sounds to me that he is cold. My kids always woke about 5.30am if they were cold and after adding a few more layers they started sleeping through till 7am again. If after a few days its still not working then I would say that he needs more awake time during the day.... Tizzie recommends moving the first sleep of the day out by 20 mins as Koolkat suggested smile.gif

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 08:03 PM

My DS was an early riser for a long time. We had a few months of 5:30am starts but then it moved to generally around 6am for about a year. He has only just started sleeping in til 7:30am some mornings but sometimes we still get 6:30am. I bought one of the gro blackout blinds as its adjustable and we're renting so wanted to be able to take it to our next house and on holiday etc. It did help a bit as we're in QLD so it gets light pretty early. At 8 months your DS is probably having 3 naps a day anyway so it doesn't really matter if his first nap is 9am, my DS was like that for ages. Im afraid that if you've covered all the things you've listed then its just one of those things. I have a dear friend (who is on i-do too) who's 2 year old woke for the day at 4:50am the other day, it isn't fun but its just the way it is sometimes. Good luck with it all.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 11:49 AM

I know it sounds crazy, but have you tried putting him to bed earlier?

My little one has always been at the lower end of the sleep requirement, but I've worked out (now) that if I have her asleep by 6 - 6.30 she'll sleep for 12 hours. If she's asleep later than that she wakes up earlier (last night - asleep at 7.20 - woke up at 4.50).



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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:09 PM

agree with greenwich... When soph was same age as your LO, we did a 630 bedtime, cause she slept better..
I have just in the last 4 months moved her to 7pm, and she is now religiously sleeping til 6am. We rarely gt a <6am now, but that is only a recent thing, we had anywhere from 4-530am before this religiously!




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