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#16 Camilla

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:22 AM

Both my kids go from zero to screaming vomiting in seconds so I feel your pain. I wasn't prepared to put them through that and with DS ended up sleeping on the floor with him for about 6 months. We moved him to a mattress on the floor (at about 2 years) and pretty much since then he has been sleeping by himself through the night. We had a gate on his bedroom door so he couldn't wander. DD was the same although we bought the mattress and bed sooner so I didn't have to spend all that time on the cold floor! She still doesn't sleep through the night but as she now sleeps with us, we all get sleep. I know it won't be forever.

DS has now been diagnosed with ASD and along with that he has quite strong sensory issues. Perhaps your son is just a little bit more sensitive with fabrics and pressure. It might be worth looking into that.

I know a lot of people think every child will eventually give in if you try to let them cry it out but neither of my children did. They would scream for hours (I did try it) but it just wasn't worth the hours of settling afterwards which left us all overtired and miserable and with really clingy children for days. You know your baby and you know yourself.

I hope you can find the solution that suits you all and everyone starts getting some good sleep. These first years are so hard!
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#17 HayleyNZ

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 04:44 PM

Tizzie Hall has a kind of pick up put down method for older babies. She also has a case study with the vomiting thing too. She says to put towels down all around bubs, when they vomit, go in, no eye contact or talking, clean it up, replace towels if necessary, just keep repeating. I think it sounds like an attention thing like the baby in the case study.

Also, do not pat to sleep as bubs will be looking for this when he wakes up in the night.

It will be extremely tough going but it will get so much better after a few days You have to stick it out longer than bubs or the behaviour will not change.

As for wrapping, as the others suggested, one arm out, then the other, then each leg- during day at first. I have a safety sleep which goes around their tummy so could provide a bit of security.

As for the feed at midnight, I don't think that is a big deal at this stage, tons of babies need it. You could try a dream feed at 9:30-10:30?

Good luck, please come back and tell us how you got on!
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(babycooper @ Aug 27 2011, 10:57 AM) View Post

I have constantly been told he is too old for a night feed but i am still doing it because he has 3 meals and snacks, bottles during the day and still drinks the whole night feed so i believe he still needs it (he is not a little thing either)

I agree with this and I say go on your instinct with it - they are still growing rapidly. My son had a minimum of one night feed for months and then once he did start sleeping through he would have a full BF. Now if he wakes he has water, but if he doesnt want it he will just knock it away.

Best of luck removing the wrap, hopefully trying one arm at a time works. If not Im not sure its worth teh stress for you both to get rid of it?

I found during the day putting toys (different ones everytime so there was no attatchment) in the cot for my son to play with until he fell asleep worked, I only did this for maybe a week or two? and not every sleep just the ones that he wasn't happy with me putting him down but he was tired. He really did not like going into the cot during the day. And at night I started rocking until almost asleep and then would put down and pick up again if he started crying. Took a while but it worked. He now quite happily goes to sleep on his own and will generally only need me to get up to him once a week/fn if he wakes at night.
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#19 Swarles Barkley

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:31 PM

If you wanted to go to sleeping bags, you can get wings that are like a wrapmeup (hands near face) but only go to the bottom of the shoulders. I forget what they are called, but they remind me of a butterfly.
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#20 babycooper

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(Camilla @ Aug 27 2011, 11:22 AM) View Post



DS has now been diagnosed with ASD and along with that he has quite strong sensory issues. Perhaps your son is just a little bit more sensitive with fabrics and pressure. It might be worth looking into that.



What is ASD?...your son sounds so much like Archie...

We had our first night in months with only one wake up....my method was just to listen to Archie..
I have kept him in the wrap (making sure he can roll safely) I have added a tshirt i have worn for a few days into his cot and some white noise so that he has some noise so its more like day time (when he sleeps well)
I think he is suffering from a bit of teething pain...he has yet to get any teeth (at 9.5 months) so i suspect a few might be on the way...last night i gave him Panadol, Brauer Teething drops and Bonjela so I have done the same tonight...i am not a huge fan of medicating but if it gives us all a bit of sleep then i will for a few nights...he copes with out pain relief during the day so i dont worry too much about overdoing it.
You suggestions are great and have made me feel so much better. As hard as it is for you mums with bad sleepers it makes me feel better to know that we are not alone and that you have been through it and come out the other side!!!


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Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:53 AM

Just wanted to send a hug. It sounds like you are doing a great job with your little man.

I just wanted to say do not feel guilty about panadol, nurofen etc when teething. Teething is awful for some babies, and really it is such a short time in their lives that some relief is not going to hurt them one bit.

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#22 Magnolia

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 10:43 AM

How's it all going Bianca?

I hope Archie is doing ok. I was speaking to a friend the other day who said her son had trouble sleeping until 10 months, then almost overnight, he started settling by himself. Hang in there!

If something feels unnatural, or not right, don't do it, Archie will get there soon enough. If he's still having trouble sleeping, can you get your husband to attend to him either saturday or sunday so that you can get a full night's sleep? That way you get to recharge your batteries?

As for the feeds, DS still wakes at times for a bottle, so I would just go along with what he wants. Most nights he doesn't need it, but 12 hours can be a long time to go without food.

If you feel comfortable having him wrapped, and he's not rolling, there's no need to transition him out of it. I know DS loved feeling all snug and secure, but he kept flipping over in his sleep.

Maybe have a look at Pinky McKay's site for some more tips?

http://www.pinky-mychild.com/

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 12:39 PM

QUOTE(Swarles Barkley @ Aug 27 2011, 09:31 PM) View Post

If you wanted to go to sleeping bags, you can get wings that are like a wrapmeup (hands near face) but only go to the bottom of the shoulders. I forget what they are called, but they remind me of a butterfly.


Sleepy wings smile.gif I thought about getting some for DD but never got around to it
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