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#1 **** Sarah and Adam ****

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 02:31 PM

I'm putting it in sleep because its more a sleep issue...but its originally a food issue that has become a sleep problem.

Angus has issues with dairy, what element of dairy I'm not 100% sure and to which I am working out separately but in any case he is on a dairy free diet and having recently weaned he is not on any element of dairy through breastmilk. He drinks the Vitasoy rice milk that is protein enriched. He would have a good 600ml of that per 24 hours, maybe even 800ml some days. He has no other dairy substituted foods as it appears that soy yoghurt unsettled his gut.

He has dinner at 5.30 followed by shower at 6 and then milk at 6.30 for bed at 7. This week I was trialling a dream freed at 10.30 every night in an attempt to get him to then sleep a solid 8 hours to a decent time of the morning. I suspect the rice milk is not very filling and thus he cannot go the long distances other kids might - even though he has good solid meals.

I'm trying to work out a good combination food wise by day and night to get him sleeping better. There are other elements of food we discover each day (i.e. apple is a big problem, as is tomato) but as we find those out we eliminate them. For now I want to manage a food routine that will encourage some better sleep...SOOOO for those with dairy free kids what milk substitute do you do? We need to see a dietician but I'm just wanting to get some ideas from here first.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 05:10 PM

I can't really say I will be too helpful because Riley didn't sleep through until after he was 2yo, and now he is starting to wake again overnight because I suspect he is going through a growth spurt.

We used the milk you are talking about (green carton) but now we can't get it through a few of our local coles that we are just using the orginal vitasoy rice milk and grab the green one when we see it.

We also don't know which part of milk upsets Ri and suspect Soy does too. Also he is gluten free, so a real pain in the bum. The biggest thing I have heard to try and encourage them sleeping through is to increase the protien they get, especially at dinner.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE(Jazy84 @ May 10 2011, 05:10 PM) View Post

We also don't know which part of milk upsets Ri and suspect Soy does too. Also he is gluten free, so a real pain in the bum. The biggest thing I have heard to try and encourage them sleeping through is to increase the protien they get, especially at dinner.


I agree with this - when we first started dairy free, we went for the plainest rice milk. Soy intol, or chickpea issues can be common with dairy issues. Our little one is now 3 and is fine on soy and chickpeas, but she oculdn't tolerate soy milk or protein enriched (i.e. chickpea) rice milk to start with.

A dietician will be able to point you in teh right direction. Though I've seen 2 (one for me, and one for Lottie) and found it worthwhile just double checking what you're told. For eg, the second one we saw said that rice milk didn't have as much calcium as soy. Turned out when I checked the boxes that she was wrong. She also recommended me a product when I had reflux that had lactose in it. When I'd specified that I'm lactose intol!

So: yes, could be worth simplifying the milk selection. And: double check what you're told by reading labels etc.
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 06:45 PM

If it is an issue with how filling the rice milk is, could you perhaps try oat or almond milk (assuming there are no allergies to nuts)? Both are higher in fat than rice milk, and 'creamier' so may be more filling?
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:44 PM

Thanks Ejay, could be worth a try. Do you know if they have the same amount of calcium etc?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:56 PM

I agree with Jazy on the protein. My sone recently started sleeping through - sometimes - and I notice the nights he usually does is because he has had quite alot of protein throughout the day.

In regards to a rice milk subsititute, I do know of some ones that you can make up, all have nuts though so would depend on any intolerances to that. My son seems to be quite filled on them.
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 10:38 PM

Can't help with the diary free side of things but jsut wanted to add that I agree on the protein to help keep them full.

I make sure I give Charlie protein for both lunch and dinner - chicken, fish, lentils, baked beans etc. I aim to make 1/3 of each meal protein.
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE(Heather :) @ May 10 2011, 09:44 PM) View Post

Thanks Ejay, could be worth a try. Do you know if they have the same amount of calcium etc?


I know you can get fortified milks (in the same way that soy and rice are). Almond would have a lot of calcium naturally, as well as things like magnesium. It's been so long since I've bought them in Australia that I really couldnt' help you with good brands - but I used to buy almond milk from my normal Woolies, so it's quite easily accessable.
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