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#1 Shrubber

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 09:10 PM

Hello!
Very new here, however I was wondering, what type of things does a bride look for a photographer? For example, do you like arty shots? Shots of nature, more shots of people etc

I'm going to be photographing my friend in January, and even though I've tried to get all the advice I can from other photographers / other photography forums, it'd be nice to know what exactly the bride looks for in photography?

To give you a little bit of background before, I'm a student[compsci] and the bride and groom are also students (Very intellegent couple, who are the nicest people in the world), asked me to take photos at their wedding. One of the problems is I've never photographed a wedding before... and have mainly done potraits for uni assignments (which is not alot). I'll have a couple more trial shoots with them, so that should be good to get an idea of what she wants biggrin.gif.

However my question is: What do you look for in for in a photographer?

What kind of shots do you like (the big division is between the traditional wedding photography to vairly new photojournalism style, with also inclusions of fashion and 'arty' (ie contempory candid shots)).

What soft of things do you like the photographer to take pictures of? (apart from bride, groom and all of the brides clothing details)

When posing the bride, do you prefure happy snaps or more romatic snaps, and how much 'posing' do you want? Should it be all natural or should it be more staged?

What photos do you like looking back / reflecting on? (like are there any photos that stick out for you?)

How much photoshop do you like? (Generally I'll take everything in raw + jpeg format, and then use lightroom to touch up the lighting if there are any errors), but I know some wedding albums have the 'dreamy effect' (ie overlayed gausian blur)

More of a technical question, but how much quality do you like in your images, by quality I mean lens quality: For example I own a 50mm 1.8 which has reasonable sharpness, however would it be better to spend $70 extra (Bride&Groom) and hire one of canon's sharpest / fastest lenses 50mm @ 1.2F <they don't have the 85mm TT___TT> (lets *alot* more light in), I ask this becaues when I've blown up my photos, anything after A4 looks looks 'alright', but not fantastic (and if using natural light I have to either bring up the ISO *noise* or lower the shutter speed *blur*), or use photoshop *noise*. Do you think if I gave you a slightly noisy/blury image would you think it would ruin the whole image?

Thank you so much! Really appreciate any replies haha

Oh and feel free to give me any more tips that you think are important!


#2 chrisby

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:05 PM

You should put those questions to your friend, as every bride will have a different point of view and it really comes down to personal taste.

as far as gear goes, you should be able to cover the range from 16mm to 200mm with at least f2.8.
You don't need a f1.2 lens. And make sure you have a backup of everything, and I mean everything, camera bodies, lenses for every range and speedlights etc.
Carry double the amount of batteries and CF cards that you think you need.

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#3 Cate

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:07 PM

Well firstly I'd say don't it... it may well ruin your friendship. Convince them to go with a pro. If you can't convince them, and they insist they they 'only want a few candid shots and you'll do fine' then be brutally honest with them about circumstances which may mean it will not be fine. Examples include: you being really sick on the day and having no back up photographer, your equipment dying/breaking etc on the day if you don't have back up etc which would ultimately mean you couldn't take the shots.

And be really really clear on what their expectations are of you, how many images they want, how long they want you there for etc.

The questions are really hard to answer as different brides will have different ideas and styles in mind.

What will you be using the 50mm mainly for? I carry the 17-55mm f2.8 and the 50mm 1.8 for events, but don't use the latter that much on the day.

I think it's ludicrious to suggest a back up of everything if you're not a pro. If you have to hire back up body, lens, batteries etc she may as well get a cheap pro. I know weddings cannot be re shot, and a back up is ideal, but if she wants a freebie I don't think it's reasonable for you to pay out hundreds for hire costs.


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#4 Shrubber

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 06:12 PM

Thank you for the advice so far!

The hire costs are $185 + ~$100 for the album & prints (I'm not charging them anything except for hire costs and costs to cover the album), thats $500 cheaper then most proffessionals (for the amount of coverage comparitvely its about $1000 cheaper). As for my equipment I'm using a 400D, 24mm L TSE, 50mm 1.8, 18-55mm, 50-250mm, 430EX II flash (and a few other accessories), as well as hiring a 5D mk II & 70-200 2.8 Mk II [IS], main lenses used will be 50mm & Tilt shift for getting ready + 50mm w/ lens magnifyer for macro shots, 70-200 + Tilt shift for ceremony, Tilt shift + 50mm for group photos and 70-200 + 50mm for reception. I'm going to be doing around 9-10h of coverage, which is more then most photographers as some only give 3. As for photoshop, I've had more then 11 years experienc... Backups I've got hopefully covered since I'm bringing a laptop and a card converter and getting someone to do it on the day for all my CF cards (as well as buying 2 more), as well as bringing the kit lenses.

I'm mearly wanting advice from brides about what they like to see in photos - so I can practice, rather then whether or whether I shouldn't be doing the job :/. I've talked to her too, however its nice to get coverage/advice from all sides, which includes highest end photographers (Denis Reggie, Yervant, Joe Buiseek etc), professional photograpers, and hopefully other brides can give me advice too (as well as getting extensive advice on my friend about what I should do). Things like post processing is tricky since, sometimes you like it at the time, but when you look back its not the same as you rembered it, either its too much or you wish that they removed the blemish etc, as with retouching.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shrubber/ hopefully I'm operating at a high enough standered + trying to get w/e as a 2nd photographer in holidays




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