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#31 Camilla

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 08:38 PM

Thanks for the support. We heard from the co-ordinator in our area and Emme's diganostic assessment is on the 19th January. Feels like an eon to have to wait but at least we have done everything we can now. She also explained that the test results don't necessarily mean she has no hearing in that ear, just that the brain wave patterns that they expect to measure/match weren't there. So basically, she could still have fluid in her ear which means that her brain "hears" sounds like they are under water and distorted which would be why the pattern doesn't match. It could also mean she does have some hearing loss.

We have been getting power chucks today. I was getting really worried. It wasn't just a once off thing, she would chuck 3 times in a row like when you have a tummy bug sad.gif. She wasn't upset by it but I was. I'm hoping tonight's feed stays down and she gets some sleep. She has been pretty unsettled all day.

Vanessa - I'm glad you have started your mum's group. Mine is my lifeline and I am so grateful to have it. If you find you don't "click" with them, try another one. Join Playgroup and anything possible around you. Every support network you have gives you a little more strength on the tough days. I'm sorry Abbey's father hasn't come to the party sad.gif. What was Abbey's HC? I'm sure I read somewhere LOL but my baby brain sucks. JJ's was 38cm and Emme's was only 35.5cm! She was much kinder on her Mummy!

Well off to bed for me! Need to get in as much sleep as possible.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 03:52 PM

ph34r.gif Also a stalker alert here...just wanted to let Emma know that in QLD you can join mother's group through the child health clinics. They run what they call 'new parent groups' which you go to once a week for 4 weeks and then you organise to meet with the mums afterwards. I would ring up asap to book in as you must start before they are 8 weeks old and they do fill up and cap the numbers. I have a few friends that have missed out as they left it too late. Hope this helps, and sorry if you already knew all this too laugh.gif Oh and since we will be pretty much neighbours soon we must catch up too! Oliver can never have too many girlfriends tongue.gif

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 05:51 PM


Thanks for the advice on the mothers groups, I'll start looking into joining one next week.

Hi Windsor! Feel free to stalk away smile.gif !

Vanessa, that's great that you had a good time at your mothers group.

Camilla, hope Emme has stopped chucking today. It feels like there is always something to worry about doesn't it?!

Melanie, thanks for popping in here to let me know about the mothers groups through the child health clinic. I had no idea thats how they were organised. I'm going to try and get an appointment for next week, so fingers crossed I can fit into a group somewhere. It would be great to catch up soon, Emily would love to meet Oliver!
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 07:45 PM

Hi all - typing this one handed while huddled over the computer desk giving Lucy a feed, so please excuse any spelling mistakes!

Sorry I haven't been around here yet - we have been having a really tough time with her sleeping and feeding and I am utterly exhausted.
I have developed some infection in my c-sec wound and am so weak I can't stand up for long, and still in a lot of pain. They had to make a deeper and wider incision than usual as she was so big! (4.2kg and 37cm head circumference.) I'm on antibiotics so hopefully it will clear up soon.

Cam I'm so sorry to read about Emme's hearing - that must be so stressful. sad.gif I really hope it is just some residual fluid causing the issue.

Vanessa I know I should look at joining a mother's group too - but I am so tired I can't face goiing out at the moment unless absolutely necessary.
Can I just say I think you are an absolute legend doing this alone - it is so hard and I have the utmost respect for single mothers. I'm really sorry to hear that her dad is still so disinterested.

Emma that's great to hear that Em is getting into a reasonable routine already - I'm jealous! We've had one good night since we've been home but feeds take me up to 2 hours then at least half an hour to settle her (and lately it's more like an hour +), so I'm getting snatches of an hours sleep here and there. wacko.gif
Hubby has been great but I'm really anxious about how I'll cope when he goes back to work in a week. Speaking of which, Hayli how are things with you now your husband has resumed work?


I am still waiting for my milk to come in - I went to the Dr yesterday and got a script for motilium - she only put me on 2 tablets a day but I have upped it to three. Also had my whooping cough booster.

We are currently breast feeding for up to an hour a time (she doesn't have a strong sucking reflex so it takes ages), then I express (lucky to get 30ml after 20 mins on both breasts) while hubby tops her up with ebm or formula.
Cam she has done some massive milk spews too and had really bad diarrhoea today so I wonder if she has a bit of a tummy upset which has made her so grizzly? unsure.gif
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 07:46 PM

Hi all,

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Camilla - Abbey's HC was 37cm, I honestly don't know how such a big baby fit inside me for 9 months! You have given me hope that if I have another child they won't necessarily have a monster head ( I blame her father as he has a big head)! Fingers crossed for Emme that it is fluid, it is scary when there may be a problem with your baby. On Abbey's day 1 check up the doctors were questioning the shape of he stomach, and a few hours later a whole army of paeds came into my room to check her out. It was nerve wracking but thankfully it turned out to be nothing. Hoping the power chucks have eased, Abs has only done one but she does do these god awful burps.

How is everyone else going?

Today I tried to do something about this bombsite of a house, but Abbey seems to have found her cranky pants and the only thing that would settle her is taking her for a walk, and by the time I had got back from that I was exhausted. I so need a helper monkey! It doesn't help that I am not suppose to lift anything heavier than her for 6 weeks, so I am currently scooping her bath water into a bucket and them putting it on the little garden we have. I hate just putting water down the sink.

Abbey's father is being a bit of a PITA. I honestly don't know if he is really that stupid or is just playing dumb. He left his job on the mines and is now working on a farm (less money, how convenient) and has next to no phone reception, so I have to wait for him to contact me, which happens about as often as I have seen a pig fly. The one time I have actually spoken to him since Abbey was born I said we need to organise child support and his answer was "Oh I thought I would just chip in for school books" Uh huh rolleyes.gif

Oh and his family still don't know anything about Abbey, when I am in bitch mode I so want to ring them. Obviously I don't know them but he has an unusual surname and grew up in a small country town. Might wait until after I have the birth certificate signed smile.gif
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 07:52 AM

QUOTE(**Vanessa** @ Nov 21 2009, 08:46 PM) View Post

Abbey's father is being a bit of a PITA. I honestly don't know if he is really that stupid or is just playing dumb. He left his job on the mines and is now working on a farm (less money, how convenient) and has next to no phone reception, so I have to wait for him to contact me, which happens about as often as I have seen a pig fly. The one time I have actually spoken to him since Abbey was born I said we need to organise child support and his answer was "Oh I thought I would just chip in for school books" Uh huh rolleyes.gif

Oh and his family still don't know anything about Abbey, when I am in bitch mode I so want to ring them. Obviously I don't know them but he has an unusual surname and grew up in a small country town. Might wait until after I have the birth certificate signed smile.gif


Just popping in to say hi! Hope to join you all soon.

Vanessa, just wanted to say I'm sorry the father is being so unco-operative. If you need any help in sorting out child support, let me know, I know a bit about it. He has a legal obligation to pay it now he has a child, as I'm sure you know. Has he signed the birth certificate yet?
He might be holding off thinking he can get out of the CS if he doesn't sign it.
I feel sorry for his family in a way. Ok, they might turn out to be a**holes as well, but what if they're not and want to see their grandchild if they knew about her? (Which I hope they would!)

Anyway, feel free to PM me if I can help in any way.

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 10:51 AM

Camilla I hope Emme has had a better day today. It's good to know you've got a date for her hearing assessment, and while it must seem so far away at least you've got Christmas in between as a good distraction.

Happy to have stalkers here too smile.gif

Sarah - It's definately a bit crazy regarding feeding the first few weeks, isn't it? I think it's hard on your body too, going from 8+ hours sleep at night to 2-4 hour blocks of sleep. It does get easier though. Hopefully, once that motillium kicks in, you'll have a nice full baby and be able to get some more sleep yourself. smile.gif

Vanessa, I always try to just clean one room well and then sit there for the day, admiring the clean room. I feel less stressed and then I don't have to stare at the rest of the house that looks more like a bombs hit it than just 'messy'.

Hi to everyone else!

Well, hubby went back to work yesterday, so I went to my mums for the day. laugh.gif
It was nice. They were able to help out with Annabelle, as I seemed to have Louis on my lap most of the day. I'm trying to feed him every 3 hours through the day as it's been so hot and he has started sleeping between 4-5 hours through the night (Woohoo!). They also have ducted air-con (we have a box in the lounge room) laugh.gif

In the afternoon, Louis had another bout of wind. This seemed to take all afternoon and into the night to settle. I've started looking at my diet to see if it's anything I'm eating that's bringing this on and I've bought some gripe water and Infacol in preparation. Poor Annabelle yesterday though, I had intended to be back home by her bedtime, but because of Louis's wind pains we didnt get home till after 11pm. My parents live about 40-50 min away and I didn't want him to scream the entire way home.

So, technically, today is my first day at home with the two. smile.gif

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 01:22 PM

Sarah - Sorry I missed your post yesterday. Apparently I was lucky not to have had a c-section (Yeah tell that to the lower half of my body!). Sorry to hear you are having problems with feeding, as I said in my other post, you are a greater woman than I for persevering with it. For me, it was so deflating expressing for half an hour (15 mins each side) and getting a combined total of 5ml. Abbey got all (not that there was much) colostrum and it felt like all I was doing was either fedding her, expressing and washing bottles, not giving me anytime for anything else like eat and sleep. It does break my heart a little when I see her mouthing at my breast and I can't give it to her. However I know that she is getting fed and seems happy and content. I look forward to reading about your birth story when you get the chance, mine is up there to compare notes on monster head babys biggrin.gif

With mothers group I did not even ask, they just told me about it on the home visit and again at open clinic when I took Abbey to get her weighed. If I was going through what you are I would not leave the house either. I cannot function on no sleep.

Simone - Come and join us (hehe I am sure you can't wait!) thanks for that, he realises now he has to pay child support and I gave him the csa website to help him get his head around it. He knows that even if he does not sign the birth certificate he still has to pay, so he decided to sign which I mailed to him last week. I even took the step of putting in a stamped self addressed envelope to make it as easy for him as possible. Thanks for your offer of help, I will see what happens in the next week or so. Hopefully he will wake up to himself. Mind you I have been saying that for 9 months now!

Hayli - Yesterday I hit the kitchen, I cannot stand dirty kitchens and bathrooms so today I will do the lounge as that is where I spend most of the time. The pile of stuff out of the bounty bag is sitting on the coffee table still! Hope your day goes well with the 2 of them today. Good luck with finding the source of Louis wind pain. It sounds terrible. I don't know how on earth you can do it with 2 little ones, that is an amazing effort. If I ever have another child I think Abbey will be in school. It will probably take me that long to be brave enough to have sex again ph34r.gif
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:05 AM

hi all
just quickly popping in while this are quiet here.

So far looking after the 3 hasn't been to bad. House isn't exactly perfect but good enough considering. I think it helps that the boys have each other to play with when I'm busy with Kayla-Rose. Although it's amazing how much mess they can make during a feed when they know i can't stop them.

Kayla-Rose is going pretty good. Feeding every 4 hours, she is fulling formula now but I'm ok with that as long as she is healthy. Our main issue at the moment is sleep. she will sleep for hours if i'm holding her but if put down she wakes up after 10mins. not really sure how to tackle this. I was wearing her in a sling but it's so stinking hot it's really not nice.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 10:53 AM

My 1st time in here! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(**Vanessa** @ Nov 22 2009, 01:22 PM) View Post

it felt like all I was doing was either fedding her, expressing and washing bottles, not giving me anytime for anything else like eat and sleep. It does break my heart a little when I see her mouthing at my breast and I can't give it to her. However I know that she is getting fed and seems happy and content.


Vanessa i feel exactly the same. Ive taken a few days to think about my expressing and weather i want to continue it or not, and ive decided that i need to stop it, for my sanity more than anything! wacko.gif I mean yes its fantastic that J is/was getting my milk, but it was such a PITA for soooo many reasons. Ive decided to let my milk dry up and go to full FF. Obviously FF isnt a bad a people make out as lots of people do it and their babies are fine right?

Ive gotta go back and catch up now, be back later smile.gif
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 11:43 AM

Hi all,

This is my first stop in here - 2 weeks later!!

November must be the month for massive heads - Owen had a 37cm head as well! And it was posterior, so despite mummies best pushing efforts we ended up with forceps and a mountain of stitches!! I then developed an awful post partum rash once we got home - which still hasn't cleared up completely.

Despite mummy being a bit worse for wear, Owen is doing really well, he's 2 weeks today and the nurse came this morning. He weighed in at 4090g, from a 3900g birth weight and 3650g when discharged from hospital. Apart from being quite unsettled in the heat yesterday and friday, he is usually quite settled and sleeps well.

Sorry about the lack of personals, I've been reading on my iPhone during night feeds and haven't had a chance to reply. Will try and keep up from now. Hope everyone is well.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 12:17 PM

Amie - I am of no help with the sleep issue, but I hope it resolves soon. At mothers group the child health nurse talked about it alot saying try to put them down when they are still awake and basically pat them to sleep. Easier said than done as last night Abbey was really trying and I just kept picking her up so she would stop screaming.

Janelle - My 2 brothers and I were FF and we turned out mostly OK! and that was nearly 30 years ago so I am sure the formula is much better now. As mum said to me when I was going with the do I, don't I's, you three were never any sicker, stupider or fatter than any other babies. I was having a bit of a sook to my step mum about it yesterday when she said that I am a determined person and can do anything I put my mind to, I replied "Yeah except for breast feeding" she said back "You were determined to feed your baby and keep your sanity". I think I like this quote!

Grace - Welcome to you and Owen! Your birth story sounds remarkably similar to mine! What were we eating to get such massive head babies? They must be extra brainy. I hear you on the stitches, I am only now starting to feel confident that my insides will not fall out when I stand up.

Abbey decided last night that she wanted to wake up every 2 hours and not every 4, so I am feeling a bit tired today.

I have terrible back pain that is getting worse, so I have made an appointment with the physio department at the hospital for 1pm today. I injured my back about a year ago so I am always really paranoid about it and always lift everything properly so I am not sure what it is from, plus I have not lifted anything heavier than Abbey since having her. I have stopped putting her on the floor as it hurts picking her up, so now I am putting her on the couch, obviously right next to me, so we have no falls. Given Abbey rolls already from her tummy to her back I have to be super vigilant.

My old housemate is coming over for tea tonight, so that will be nice to have some adult company. Speaking of which I put a profile on an internet dating site (somehow I cannot see myself going out for a few months yet) just to see what was out there and I have had some success mind you most of them are so not my cup of tea. Just because I am a single mum does not mean my standards have dropped.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE(**Vanessa** @ Nov 23 2009, 12:17 PM) View Post

Janelle - My 2 brothers and I were FF and we turned out mostly OK! "You were determined to feed your baby and keep your sanity". I think I like this quote!


Sorry to hear abbey had an unsettled night sad.gif I suppose they have to have one bad night for every few good nights...

How much and how frequently are you feeding Abbey?
What formula do you feed her?

Chucky! its nice to see you in here on the other side! biggrin.gif
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:28 PM

Janelle - FF is perfectly fine! As long as your baby is fed, it doesn't matter whether it is from your breast or not! I get so cranky when I hear BFing mums trying to make themselves feel so virtuous etc and make it sound like it is the best and only way to feed a baby. I consider myself lucky in some ways that BFing has been easy both times. In others, I really feel that burden. I can't take a break if I'm sick or tired or just want to have 3 hours to myself. I remember having gastro one time and JJ had gastro too and we both lay on the couch sick as anything but I had to keep feeding him as often as possible to keep him from dehydrating. It was awful sad.gif but I didn't have a choice. He wouldn't take anything else. You can't take a cold and flu tablet when you feel like hell sad.gif and the guilt if you drink or eat anything that could harm your bub is always there. There is no ultimate way so it just has to suit YOU and your family! You have done an awesome job!

Grace - Glad to hear Owen is doing so well! No idea what it is with these first babies having massive heads and presenting posterior! JJ did that and with a 38cm head we ended up with forceps too. I was scared this time LOL but my dainty little princess was kind to her Mummy. Hope your stitches are healing okay. I remember it was about 7-8 days after that they really started pulling and were almost more uncomfortable than when they were first in. I just kept telling myself that it was just that they were healing!

Amie - Awful isn't it? I hate it when they seem so asleep and then their eyes pop open as soon as you put them down. I have been trying to put Emme down awake and just letting her wriggle it out a bit. JJ hates her crying which makes it a bit harder but we sometimes get there. She sleeps most of her day sleeps in the rocker downstairs surrounded by all the noise.

Vanessa - I remember JJ doing that at 3 weeks. The nurse had told me to expect him to have a growth spurt in that week and that he would be wanting to feed every 2 hours. I think your Stepmum has got it 100% correct! I'm really glad you have her around to talk to and support you. As I said to Janelle, BFing isn't always the "miracle" it is often made out to be. Hope you get some relief for your back. I'm heading to my chiro on Thursday as I have been having quite a bit of pain too. I believe it is quite normal as everything moves back into place etc.

Having an okay time of it. The hardest bit right now is dealing with the cranky toddler around here! He is chucking massive wobblies LOL and I'm sure it is to do with being completely spoilt over the past 2 weeks and having his whole life turned upside down! Hopefully we can come out the other side soon!
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:41 PM

I am back from the physio and am now wearing a support bandage thing, reminds me of those undies that make you skinnier. Basically my lower tummy muscles are still quite a way apart so my back is having to compensate. I am also not to lift anything heavier than Abs for 3 whole months. Abbey screamed the whole time so when the physio was talking to me about exercises I fed her and OMG she said "oh not formula" Oh well what can you do?

Janelle - I am using S26 Gold as that is what she was given in hospital (not that I was suppose to be told hehe). I was giving her 60mls up until the child health nurse said at just under 2 weeks to put her on 100mls every 3.5 hours. As 2 scoops make up 120ml I am just giving her that every 3.5 - 4 hours and letting her drink what she wants, which is the full amount most of the time. It is so hard to get information on FF, it is not like we are giving our babies whiskey.

Cam - Hope JJ starts to be able to deal with his sisters crying soon. It must be so different for the older ones to suddenly have to share everyones attention. Abs also sleeps downstairs during the day in her pram. I tend to leave her rocker in the bathroom so I can at least have a shower. I can't hear her cry over the water ph34r.gif
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