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#16 drom

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 03:57 PM

Thanks girls.

H just spoke to the vet on duty. They got Fidels blood test results back and they basically said that they are still unsure of why he is jaundiced and anaemic. There's nothing conclusive, but they also said that there were many positives that they could take from the test results. Which is good to hear. smile.gif

They've recommended that we come in tonight to speak with the vet in detail and also get to visit Fidel (which we are hanging out to do). wub.gif

Lissy they have sent off bloods for an FIP test which the vet told H this morning that it could be. She doesn't think it is FIP, as he isn't presenting all the symptons. But, she also said that it is one possibility amongst many. I truly hope it isn't and once again I'm so sorry about Gus. Your poor thing.

The FIP test results will take 5 days to come back. Until we know the results, we are not allowed to take Fidel home as it is contagious and we have Moni at home. So Fidel will be staying at the AEC for another 5 days at least.

I don't know much more than that at the moment. Our meeting with the vet tonight will make it a lot clearer I'm sure.

But, from what they told H just before. They are happy that he has stabilised. But, still not sure why he is jaundiced and anaemic.

Christian Troy..... now that we have the blood test results we are going to contact the breeder. We wanted to wait until we knew what we were dealing with. The vet told H that there may be certain things are specific to his breed (Birman) so his breeder will be able to shed some expert light on this.

Thanks again for all your best wishes. We still appear to be a long way from an answer. But, from what they've told us, he is still quite ill, but in very good spirits and being very well looked after. wub.gif

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 06:33 PM

Sending lots of get well soon vibes from Remy, Mystique and me.

Get better soon Fidel, your family needs you!

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 09:15 PM

Sounds like good news so far. I hope your baby boy gets better soon.
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:20 AM

Oh wonderful news drom, I just hope it keeps getting better!!!!
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:57 AM

We went to visit our gorgeous little man last night and he was so pleased to see us! As we were to see him! smile.gif

He still had his plastic collar around his neck so he can't pull out his IV tube and his front paw bandaged up to his chest. We couldn't move him too far from his cage with his IV tube still connected to the machine or cuddle his little face properly with the collar still on. But, we spent about 45 minutes cuddling with him. It was awesome. wub.gif

We spoke to the vet on duty at length. She told us that the test results were inconclusive, which is a concern to them. There are no obvious signs as to why he is this ill. He is still very jaundiced and anaemic and he has a high protein level in his blood which is not good. Because of this protein level, they are now leaning towards a diagnosis of FIP, which is a fatal disease with no treatment or cure. sad.gif sad.gif We won't know if he has FIP until his results come back on Friday, but even then we might get a negative result and he could still have it. It's very hard to diagnose.

Hubby and I are devastated to put it mildly. We cried most of the way home and I'm still so upset today. sad.gif

I was really confused as I thought they'd said that there were positives to take from his results even though they were inconclusive. But, from what this vet said, well that didn't seem to be the case?

We asked the vet what she would do. She said that if it were her, she'd take him to see a specialist. So we are booked in tomorrow to pick up Fidel and drive him to the specialist to see what he says. I guess we will know a bit more after this visit.

We still have our fingers crossed for our gorgeous little guy. We hope and pray that the specialist will find out the cause. If not, well there's nothing more anyone can do for him. And we know what that means and we are dreading it......

I just feel so sad and upset. We've only had Fidel for 3 weeks on Thursday, but already he is such a huge part of our family and we don't want to loose him. It's just not fair, he's still a baby (only 15 weeks old).

Hubby is going to ring and speak with the vet he spoke to yesterday who was quite positive. He just wants to ask her a few things. We are also going to speak with Fidels breeder today as well. She might be able to shed some light and she may also want to come and visit him.

Please send all your positive thoughts and vibes for our little guy. They would be very much appreciated.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 09:33 AM

Sending all my positive thoughts & prayers your way. Big hugs. xxxx

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 09:45 AM

I'm so sorry Drom. I am thinking of you all. I Just sent you a PM. Not sure if it went through??

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:04 AM

Oh Drom, all this indecision must be so hard for you both.

Im hoping like mad isnt not FIP.

Goodluck with the specialist tomorrow, hopefully he can shed some light on a diagnosis.

My boys are praying for Fidel.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 05:02 PM

Thinking of you drom and hoping it is not FIP.

Are you in Sydney? We took our baby to SASH vets at North Ryde where Ollie saw the cat whisperer (Darren Foster). He was excellent and able to give us answers our own vet could not provide. Hopefully the breeder will be able to shed some light on the situation.

I just googled FIP and found a link to these guys that breed Birmans but also are vets. They say it is connected to another virus and can be difficult to diagnose but that Sydney Uni can test for it. Might be worth discussing with the specialist? My friend took her cat to Sydney Uni and they were also excellent.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 07:22 AM

I am sorry to hear about Fidel. Thinking of you.

How are his liver enzymes? Are the elevated?
If they are elevated, there is a product on the market called Denosyl, it helps liver function, and supports the liver.
Has he had access to anything like Lillies?
(I remember nursing a kitten that sounded similar to Fidel that had access to a bunch of lillies)

Christian Troy - Isnt Darren Foster just so special!! He helped me with my cat when he was over at the VSC.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 08:03 AM

Drom, I am so sorry I was hoping you would have some good news. We will keep sending get well soon vibes your way.
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 02:38 PM

How is he doing today drom?



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Posted 30 April 2009 - 11:13 AM

Gosh it is so hard to summarise what has been happening since Tuesday night. It’s been such a rollercoaster of ups and downs.

But basically where we are at is that Fidel has tested positive for the Corona virus. This is the virus that *can* mutate into FIP. FIP is fatal. But, as the specialist advised, many cats test positive for the Corona virus and it never mutates into FIP. They live long and healthy lives. It just means they have at some stage been exposed to the virus, it’s passed through their body and nothing more happens. But, in saying this, there is a percentage where it does turn into FIP, but a very very small percentage. So whilst this wasn’t good news, she said it also wasn’t bad news.

But, what this did mean is that we had to bring Moni (our other cat) in with us on Wednesday to get bloods taken and sent off to see if she had been exposed to the Corona virus from Fidel. We felt truly awful that we may have also put Moni at risk. sad.gif As we said on Tuesday night, who even knows if Moni already had Corona and was the one that gave it to Fidel? As we don’t know Moni’s history because she wandered lost into our yard when she was a kitten about 4 months ago. It was all a mystery to us and the situation just seemed to be getting worse now that Moni was now involved (had to be tested etc).

Our visit with the specialist was fantastic, she believes that Fidel picked up a very very nasty virus (not Corona) that caused his anaemia, jaundice and dehydration. She told us that viruses have a very small window of opportunity to catch them at the right time (via blood) to diagnose. She believed that we have now missed the opportunity to find out what the virus was as it's already passed through. And that even though it has been proven that Fidel was exposed to the Corona virus at some stage, it isn’t the Corona virus that has caused him to be ill.

She watched Fidel running around the office during the consultation. He was happy as, jumping from the floor to our laps (including the specialists tongue.gif ), up onto the table, the window sill, into the sink. It was too funny. As she said, he appears to be a very very healthy and happy young man. You wouldn't even know that he is ill. As we told her, Fidel is currently looking the best we have seen him, he's even more active than the first day we brought him home. smile.gif

She did an ultrasound to check all his organs and it came back perfect. No abnormalities, no nodules and no fluid. She was very pleased. She also took bloods to do other tests and will advise us of the results when they come in. She told us that the signs of jaundice can take up to a few weeks to disappear. So that may explain why he still looks a bit yellow, but has definately improved.

Basically she was very pleased with Fidel. She thought that he was on the mend from whatever virus it was that caused him to be ill. She wanted to base line his results and start from scratch and monitor his progress over the next few weeks. It was all very positive and she thought we could take him home very soon.

We left on a total high! It was not the result we were expecting but it was definitely the one we were hoping for. smile.gif

We drove Fidel back to the emergency centre and gave an update to the vets there who were so pleased. We then headed back off home with Moni in the back seat being very vocal after her day stay at the Centre. tongue.gif

On the drive home the specialist called to advise that Fidel’s blood cell count test results had shown that he had dropped further to 16 (10 is a blood transfusion). To say we were all surprised including the specialist (especially with how well he appears to be) was an understatement. The specialist then advised that the virus he had/has may be micro plasma (cant remember the full name) and that she had sent off blood for testing for this. She also wanted to put him immediately on a course of antibiotics. So the emergency centre started the course last night. We rang this morning to see how the little guy was doing and the vets advised that his blood cell count at midnight had risen from 16 to 22. So we have our fingers crossed as this is a very good sign. smile.gif If the test results come back positive for Micro Plasma then we also know that this is what made him ill.

We feel like we’ve been through the wringer. On Tuesday night when getting the positive result for Corona, we were really really down and didn’t hold much hope and were so upset. I started off Wednesday morning by breaking down crying in the shower as I really thought it was going to be a truly awful day. By the time we got home last night with the positive news. I was utterly exhausted, as was hubby.

We have our fingers crossed that Fidel is now going to pull through and will eventually come home to us and Moni. But, I guess we’ll know a bit more in a few days time. So for now, Fidel is still living at the Centre and becoming firmly entrenched with all the staff (vets and vet nurses). He will have been at the Centre for a week on Saturday, which is a long time. I think he has to beat 3 weeks, to be their longest patient. tongue.gif When we left him last night, he was tearing around his cage, throwing his mousie high up in the air, jumping, running and trying to knock his water bowl over! Bascially looking so very very happy, healthy and full of mischief. It's gorgeous to see. biggrin.gif When we rang the vet this morning, she laughed and said “hang on, I have to put Fidel down from his morning cuddles, so I can speak to you properly).

I think that sums up just how wonderful ALL of the staff that have looked after Fidel have been. That truly are the most amazing people.

So that’s were we are at the moment. I guess as test results start to filter through over the next few days we’ll know a bit more.

Sorry for the really long post, but it’s hard to summarise.

Thanks so much for your best wishes girls, they are truly appreciated and I think they just might be doing the trick! biggrin.gif

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:11 PM

How fantastic to come in here and read such positive news. I hope Fidel continues to get stronger!

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:13 PM

Drom, I hope the news just gets better and better for both you and Fidel. Good Luck and Good Vibes coming your way!!!!
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