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#31 Decembergirl

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE(Chrissy25 @ Jan 20 2009, 11:21 AM) View Post

This thread is making me extremely sad and I am trying desperately to not get emotional, but its hard when I have 2 kittens at home after being dumped because of an "accident" ( I was in the shelter when they came in)


Chrissy, please don't get upset. We're talking about two kittens that BL hasn't found homes for. I'm sure they're not going to just be dumped, hence this thread. And getting upset about this is futile. There will be irresponsible pet owners as long as there are pets. No point getting upset about it, when you're doing your best to prevent the problem.

QUOTE(Leapstar @ Jan 20 2009, 11:53 AM) View Post

In regards to this issue I can really see both sides.

People like Chrissy who so obviously care a great deal about animal welfare have nothing but my eternal admiration and I applaude her actions as she does wonderful things.

Having said that from an average lay persons POV, I have always loved and had cats as pets, but everything I ever heard from vets etc read in cat care books, was desexing at 5-6 months old. When we got our old family cat from the Cat Protection Society about 17 years ago (and she is still with us) we were allowed to take her home straight away at 8 weeks without being desexed, we paid for the desxing up front and were required to take her back to the affiliated vets for desexing at 5 months.

Until I read it here on these forums I was not aware that cats could be dexed so young. As the average responsible cat owner I took my current cat and had her vaccinated as a kitten and arranged with my vet to have her desexed at 5 months on the vets advice. I think that most people who are not as intimate or educated as the likes of Chrissy and Lizzums in regards to the age of desexing issue would take the advice of their vet and have thier pet desexed at the vets recommended age. I do not think that its fair to criticise or judge the OP for doing the right thing as per her vets advice. She was trying to get her cat desexed when she found out she was pregnant, she is trying to find loving homes for the resulting kittens and did not cruelly or callously dump them. I think that she has done her best and if you think she was wrong maybe educate but dont berate!!

For my own further curiosity, if the shelters etc are advocating desexing from around 10 weeks, why is this not recommended by vets??


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Posted 20 January 2009 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE(Decembergirl @ Jan 20 2009, 01:25 PM) View Post

Chrissy, please don't get upset. We're talking about two kittens that BL hasn't found homes for. I'm sure they're not going to just be dumped, hence this thread. And getting upset about this is futile. There will be irresponsible pet owners as long as there are pets. No point getting upset about it, when you're doing your best to prevent the problem.


I am not upset I am sad. I am sad that everyone seems so accepting of this. This is not about the 2 that are left, there is a bigger picture and that is the point some of us have been trying to get across.

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ETA: Just out of curiosity, have we established that BL cat is 5 months old???
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:07 PM

Why don't vet's advocate desexing earlier? Simply because it is easier for them to desex on a bigger animal. Smaller animals, smaller organs, smaller surgery...

There is an old school of thought that a smaller animal/younger animal could not handle the anesthesia as well as a bigger one, but that's being proved a little out dated.

Also, training in vet school is with bigger animals because it is harder for a student to learn on smaller patients


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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:09 PM

Lib - I dont know what you are trying to achieve....but anyway....

Chrissy im so sorry you are getting emotional...perhaps this debate should be in one of the previous threads that have are in this section.

I can assure you these kittens are getting all the love and care they so deserve at that they will be going to responsible owners who will love them for life - just as I do my pets - My lilly got pregnant whilst i was in hospital, If I could have prevented it I would have. But I believe I am doing the correct thing here.

Lil charli may now have a pending home.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:13 PM

Putting the desexing issue aside, BL are you vaccinating/worming these kittens?

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:14 PM

I think it was Leighs cat that was 5 months.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE(*Ez* @ Jan 20 2009, 02:13 PM) View Post

Putting the desexing issue aside, BL are you vaccinating/worming these kittens?


Yes all are having this done - they are also currently getting used to their litter trays

ETA- Chrissy I do agree with everything you have said...and I do see the bigger picture. It was a mistake to not get lilly desexed straight away - we did with charli and Bella, but rest assured this will not happen again. I am a member of WSPCA and always support local animal charities, I have made one mistake as a pet owner and i think I am doing the best I can to make sure these cherubs get the best life possible.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE(*Butterfly Dreams* @ Jan 20 2009, 02:19 PM) View Post

ETA- Chrissy I do agree with everything you have said...and I do see the bigger picture. It was a mistake to not get lilly desexed straight away - we did with charli and Bella, but rest assured this will not happen again. I am a member of WSPCA and always support local animal charities, I have made one mistake as a pet owner and i think I am doing the best I can to make sure these cherubs get the best life possible.


smile.gif I do hope that for yours and more importantly the kittens' sake everything works out.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE(Chrissy25 @ Jan 20 2009, 02:22 PM) View Post

smile.gif I do hope that for yours and more importantly the kittens' sake everything works out.
Good Luck.



Thankyou - And thankyou for all of your information it has been very insightful and helpful.. And a thankyou for all you do for your foster animals wub.gif
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:17 PM

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Thankyou - And thankyou for all of your information it has been very insightful and helpful.. And a thankyou for all you do for your foster animals wub.gif

little sox left today - he has been named hank...booked into my vet and went with his new owner....sad but happy he has gone to a good home.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:22 PM

Why do you quote yourself?
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE(Liberarchi @ Jan 20 2009, 09:22 PM) View Post

Why do you quote yourself?

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:52 AM

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:29 AM

I'm interested in Lil Charlie if he doesn't already have a home.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE(Chrissy25 @ Jan 20 2009, 12:52 PM) View Post

I am not upset I am sad. I am sad that everyone seems so accepting of this. This is not about the 2 that are left, there is a bigger picture and that is the point some of us have been trying to get across.


It's not about the big picture though, this thread was just BL trying to see if anyone was interested in giving a home to her kittens, not a debate about desexing.
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