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#1 *Butterfly Dreams*

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 04:30 PM

Hi I have 5 gorgeous babies for good homes only. Our lilly fell pregnant JUST b4 she was due to get desexed so we decided to let her have the litter. She had 6 but one has already been claimed.

If anyone is interested PM me and I will show you some photos and give you more information.

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ETA - these kittens will not be going to a pet store they will be homed with loving families - Lilly is all up to date with her vaccines and is a great mother. When she has adapted to the bubs being gone she will then be desexed so she doesnt sneak off and do this again!
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:32 PM

Why didn't you keep her inside then? Did you notice she was on heat?

Sorry, but this sort of thing annoys me.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(squidge @ Jan 17 2009, 10:32 PM) View Post

Why didn't you keep her inside then? Did you notice she was on heat?

Sorry, but this sort of thing annoys me.



Unfortunately she got out one night - and yeah thats all it takes. No need to apologise- It doesnt annoy me - Im doing the right thing here and getting them good homes and having her fixed as soon as I can. Theses babies have the best home right now and now three have new mums and dads for when they are ready.

This thread is for if you would be interested in a kitten not a debate.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:57 PM

There are three bubs left now :

We are calling him lil charli because he looks like my 4yo Charli
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he is long haired and black/charcoal in colour - just a bundle of joy

This is another male - he is just like a little prince!
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And finally the spitting image of her brother - the little princess
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Oh and just like that The little princess has a new potential mum pending a visit and bonding session.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 10:44 PM

I am assuming that these kittens will not be desexed or vaccinated before being rehomed? That would be to responsible I guess.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:13 AM

awwww they are so cute
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 07:48 AM

They are just gorgeous and I think you will have no trouble finding homes for them.

In regards to the issue of having them in the first place.... I know from my own experience how easy it is for kitties to get pregnant before they are desexed.

My cat who is registered, has never spent a night outside, who is desexed, who only spends time outside when hubby and I are home with her, and has been trained not to stray from our yard, got pregnant at under 5 months.

I took her to get desexed at the earliest my vet would allow (5 months) we took her in and she was already pregnant. Both hubby and I were perplexed and could not figure it out, but the vet reassured us that it only takes 5 mins. Sadly she couldnt have the kittens as they were too big for her to birth and the vet decided to terminate the kitties at the same time he desexed her otherwise she could have died trying to give birth.

I do agree that provision should be made for the kittens to be vaccinated and desexed though.

I can understand an accident happening (as I think is the case here) the thing that gets to me is people deliberately letting thier pets get pregnant, that is irresponsible IMO.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE(Lizzums @ Jan 19 2009, 11:44 PM) View Post

I am assuming that these kittens will not be desexed or vaccinated before being rehomed? That would be to responsible I guess.

I hope they would be as otherwise this problem will continue.Its all good and well if the new owner looks after kitty and acts responsible but we also know how many cats end up in pounds to be destroyed.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE(Leapstar @ Jan 20 2009, 08:48 AM) View Post

I took her to get desexed at the earliest my vet would allow (5 months)


I think this is the problem, many vets advise clients to postpone desexing, many vets say its unsafe and the information out there is very confusing for people and they can hardly be blamed if a vet has advised them not get cats/ dogs desexed early.

In my experience kittens and puppies can be desexed at an early age. All of my fosters and my cats that I have adopted from the RSPCA were desexed very early. they are all fine and I have never had any issues with them.

Butterfly Dreams, can I ask how old your cat is?

I agree with Liz and Michelle, the ideal situaltion would be for you kittens to be desexed before they are adopted, but I dont think this is the case with your kittens is it?

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:19 AM

QUOTE(*Bec* @ Jan 20 2009, 09:10 AM) View Post

See this is the problem though, you can't get a kitten desexed that early on. You would need to keep them for 5-6 months to have them desexed. I am not condoning Cats having kittens because the mother was not desexed but I had a similar situation recently so I understand.


It is a legal requirement for a shelter to have all their animals desexed before adoption, this includes kittens and puppies, most kittens are desexed under 10 weeks, my cats were and all my foster are being desexed as well. The earlier they are desexed the sooner they recover.
Like I said in my earlier post, alot of people are misinformed about this.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:47 AM

we got our cat from the RSPCA and she was desexed at 9 weeks.

That said, i work in a local council, where if the Rangers get given/find kittens they try to rehome them before they go to the RSPCA. They never desex their kittens, as it is a condition of being given the kitten that you register it and have it desexed.

I dont think that if anyone is giving away kittens for free, which really is a lot more friendly than the other option, that they should be expected to pay for the desexing. The onus should be on the new owner. same with vaccinations and microchipping.

ETA: Sure, make sure that each new owner knows that they need to have the kitten desexed, microchipped, vaxinated, registered with council etc, even give them the information for vets in the local area, but i dont think its BL's responsiblity in this situation. Unless she was then going to recoup all of her costs from the new owners
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:03 AM

QUOTE(april_candice @ Jan 20 2009, 09:47 AM) View Post


ETA: Sure, make sure that each new owner knows that they need to have the kitten desexed, microchipped, vaxinated, registered with council etc, even give them the information for vets in the local area, but i dont think its BL's responsiblity in this situation. Unless she was then going to recoup all of her costs from the new owners


I'm not sure I agree. The kittens have been born because BL's cat had not been desexed so IMO it kind of is BL's reponsibility to make sure the same thing doesn't occur with these kittens. Does that make sense?



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Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:26 AM

QUOTE(TrippyTaco @ Jan 20 2009, 09:03 AM) View Post

I'm not sure I agree. The kittens have been born because BL's cat had not been desexed so IMO it kind of is BL's reponsibility to make sure the same thing doesn't occur with these kittens. Does that make sense?

I agree.
Until someone has worked in a refuge and had to put down more then 50 kittens and cats a day over the xmas period I dont think they truely understand how terrible the situation is with "mistake" litters of puppies and kittens.
I believe that vets should be desexing puppies and kittens from 8 weeks or the appropriate weight (its been so long I cant remember now)

I am not exagerating with the number put down either... that was one refuge not a group just 1 refuge on any given day over the summer months... this is not include the puppies and adult dogs either.

If someone believes they have the right to bring baby animals into this world they have the responsibility to ensure that these babies do not make more babies of their own.

QUOTE(Leapstar @ Jan 20 2009, 07:48 AM) View Post

I took her to get desexed at the earliest my vet would allow (5 months) we took her in and she was already pregnant. Both hubby and I were perplexed and could not figure it out, but the vet reassured us that it only takes 5 mins. Sadly she couldnt have the kittens as they were too big for her to birth and the vet decided to terminate the kitties at the same time he desexed her otherwise she could have died trying to give birth.

This is what should really happen. The pregnancy should be aborted as soon as possible.
Animals are not like people. They do not NEED to have babies. Its because people can not handle the pregancy being aborted that so many kittens and puppies are born.




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Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:33 AM

Applaud Lizzums, very well said. I don't think some people realise the extent to which these animals are put down. It's very sad indeed. sad.gif


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Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:34 AM

QUOTE(Lizzums @ Jan 20 2009, 09:26 AM) View Post

I agree.
Until someone has worked in a refuge and had to put down more then 50 kittens and cats a day over the xmas period I dont think they truely understand how terrible the situation is with "mistake" litters of puppies and kittens.
I believe that vets should be desexing puppies and kittens from 8 weeks or the appropriate weight (its been so long I cant remember now)

I am not exagerating with the number put down either... that was one refuge not a group just 1 refuge on any given day over the summer months... this is not include the puppies and adult dogs either.

If someone believes they have the right to bring baby animals into this world they have the responsibility to ensure that these babies do not make more babies of their own.
This is what should really happen. The pregnancy should be aborted as soon as possible.
Animals are not like people. They do not NEED to have babies. Its because people can not handle the pregancy being aborted that so many kittens and puppies are born.

Bec's vet refused to terminate, beacause of the distress it would cause the staff. dry.gif ALthought if they had I wouldn't have my little Kitty Kitty wub.gif
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