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#1 ChristalLovesDean

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 11:52 AM

Hey,

Im hoping that someone can help me out here, im getting all different conflicting advice (whats new when it comes to babies lol!!) this week charlotte has been drinking 180-240ml of formula every feed, according to the formula tin shes meant to be still having 120, then going to 180 when shes 2months..thats just not satisying her tho. The clinic said to just feed her what she wants (she does spit the bottle out when shes had enough) but then my doctor said if i feel like shes putting on weight too fast to water down the formula so that theres a bottle of water a day mixed in with the formula to get her used to that...but now lots of ppl are telling me not to water down formula...im so confused!!! charlotte was born in 95th percentile for weight but is now down to around 75th percentile so does that mean shes fine with her weight gain for now and i should just continue to give her whatever she wants to drink?

As u can see i have no idea!! HELP me if u can! would love to hear others experiences/opinions on this!
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 12:08 PM

Don't do it!!!!!!

I was 'advised' to water down Alex's formula when he was very young (it was supposed to solve his constipation) and he cried heaps and was always cranky, and i finally figured it out after weeks of hell. They fill up on the water, but don't get enough nutrition to actually really be full and are never satisfied. I ended up switching his formula to a more easily digested one, and what do you know? Different baby!!

I wouldn't be too concerned with her weight personally, once they start to become more active they tend to burn a lot of it off.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 12:44 PM

Hi, I ff ds one bottle a day from about 3 months, he ALWAYS drank heaps. He was just a hungry baby. The tin is only a guide. I have only ever heard advice to NOT water down formula. DS was a budda baby until he started crawling biggrin.gif
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:27 PM

On the tin it is advised that you do not alter the way the formula is prepared.
And I wouldn't, the amounts which the tin 'advises' you to prepare for your baby is only a guide, and you should feed your baby until she is content.
I would not be watering the formula down at all.
If she does spit the bottle out and then a little later seems hungry, I would offer her water.

I was always told to get bub's to drink water particulary FF ones.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:51 PM

at only 6 weeks old milk is the only thing she should be drinking. any decent healthcare provider will tell you this. I was told that there was need for extra water at that age.

i would find a new doctor because telling you to water down her bottles is very very wrong and could cause serious health problems. fancy telling you to water it down if you feel she is gaining too much! what a moron! blink.gif

continue to feed her the correct amount of water/scoops , whatever amount she wants! she wont overfeed herself!

if you water it down she will miss out on the vitamins and minerals she needs to grow.

also she may be having a growth spurt that is why she is drinking more! just go with it and dont stress!

Maybe you should ring the helpline on the formula tin or a child health nurse, just to clarify and get the correct advice from a professional.



edit- omg i am such an idiot- i already replied to this lol. will delete other post. baby brain?

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:16 PM


I agree with the others - definitely do not water down the formula. I'm very surprised your doctor suggested this. I'm also a firm believer in that your child will drink what they need - my daughter drinks the amount suggested for a 2 month old and she's nearly 5 months - but I can't make her drink any more. As long as your baby is healthy and happy, that's the main thing.

This is a totally separate issue, but my paediatrician told us of a case where he saw a young baby in hospital who was failing to thrive - while in hospital they noticed the mother was making up formula at half strength to save the money so she could buy cigarettes. He said it was actually considered neglect.

Try not to worry - I know it's hard - but no baby is textbook. Just follow your instincts.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE(Renee` @ Aug 11 2008, 02:27 PM) View Post

I was always told to get bub's to drink water particulary FF ones.


Just to confuse you even further I was told the exact opposite! No water till 6 months! Geordie was breastfed but had a daily bottle of formula from 4 months. But just FTR I put 10mls more water in the bottle.

In your case OP I would be feeding her to appetite, meaning if she wants more milk at feeding time she is hungry and she should get it!! Just like us some times they are hungrier or perhaps she just is a hungry person / big eater.

Two months vs. six weeks old, hey nobody is textbook. I believe the information on the tin is only a GUIDE. What your baby is communicating to you is REALITY.

((The only exception I would take to this would be IF she was a "snacker" (drinks all day and night but only small amounts - outside of a growth spurt of course). I would then be restricting her to 3-4 hourly feeds so she gets in touch with her own hunger and satiation)).

I'm surprised at your doctor; I didn't think you could *make* a baby drink if they didn't want it so how could they be putting on weight too fast??? huh.gif

Perhaps you could ring him and ask him to clarify his position. No wonder you're confused!

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edit- omg i am such an idiot- i already replied to this lol. will delete other post. baby brain?


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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:59 PM

thanks so much girls, thats what i thought, i had read the tin and how it says not to dilute it but then with everyone saying 'she drinks how much??!!?' u begin to second guess yourself!! its only been a week and a bit of this bigger feeds so maybe it is a growth spurt-maybe its not, im just gonna feed her what she wants smile.gif sounds so simple now that u put it that way!!
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 04:04 PM

I agree with everything above. Your baby will let you know when she has had enough, so pay little attention to the proper formula of working out how much she is supposed to be having. It is good for a guide so you can know if she is drinking less/more than the average baby, so you can then guage her growth accordingly if need be.

Archie always had way more than he was supposed to as well. I would just feed him until he spat the bottle out or was so full that the milk just wouldn't go down anymore tongue.gif
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE(tastebud @ Aug 11 2008, 03:52 PM) View Post

Just to confuse you even further I was told the exact opposite! No water till 6 months! Geordie was breastfed but had a daily bottle of formula from 4 months. But just FTR I put 10mls more water in the bottle.



Kaele was only breastfed for 5 days, and was a summer bub, so I guess it also made sense to me to give her water.
Especially to help with any issues she may of had when it came to her backing up...it was always cooled boiled and only between feeds ofcourse.
I now have no issues giving her water at all she loves her water at meals times biggrin.gif

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 09:17 PM

Yeah I still can't get my head around not giving a summer bub water! I think if my other bubs are summer babies I'll definitely be slipping in a little here and there!
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 09:54 PM

I cant speak from experience, but at our MG we were always advised NOT to water down the formula. Make it to the ratio on the tin. The only exception we discussed was maybe topping hte bottle up with a little extra water (like 30 ml) if it was really really really hot. Like35 degrees plus.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 10:45 PM

As the others have said, definitely DON'T water the formula down! Charlotte will know how much she wants to eat, so let her!! We had similar problems with Liam a few weeks back where we were offering him 120ml (as the tin says for his age) and he was scoffing the first bottle and then crying because he was still hungry (we know his hungry cry from his other cries), and was then scoffing the 2nd 120ml as well! And he was doing this 6 times a day! Sometimes he wouldn't quite finish the 2nd bottle, but he was definitely drinking more than the 120ml! He then dropped back to only drinking between 120-160ml per feed, so we've been offering him 160ml each feed since and thats what he's been drinking. Only once or twice since has he been hungry after that bottle, and even then I've found that he's eaten/drunk enough to satisfy him for a few hours - but that he'll usually wake up hungry before his standard 4 hours is up.

As an aside, I've tried offering Liam water because he was getting constipated early on due to us switching him to a Anti-Reflux formula (thicker than 'normal' formula), but he refuses to drink it! He will suck on the teat and then spit all the water back out - I can't even get him to drink 5ml, so I've stopped trying. We added prune juice to his bottle for a few weeks and have stopped that now and everything is back to normal - so not every baby is going to like having water either!! We'll just try him again closer to Summer where he'll be 6mths then and starting solids anyway!

So don't stress about what other people are saying about Charlotte's eating habits - trust your own instinct and offer her what you feel is right (and if she's dropped to the 75% rather than the 95% she was at birth, you have nothing to worry about her eating that much anyway - she may just have a very fast metabolism).

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 10:22 AM

Hi,

Just letting you know that I have 'watered down' formula. But not at 6 weeks old. I would let her drink what she wants, she's probably catching up. My little one NEVER drank what the tin said she should...it was either too little or too much.

I certainly wasn't worried about giving her water at a young age. We have a great Dr and paed and both of them said there was no need to give water seperately as she was getting water from the formula. She now (and has had for a while) a bottle or 2 of water a day.

As for watering down the formula, we did this when she's been sick. The body doesn't digest the sugars as well so for instance, if she was having 200ml of milk, we would only put in 2 scoops of formula rather than 4. She was fine and it was on Dr's advice. Even now I don't make up her formula exactly as the tin says, I always add a little extra water.

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 09:54 AM

I think you should ask the formula company or your health nurse to give you some information in writing explaining why it is wrong and dangerous to water down formula. Then you should give that to your doctor and tell him that you are very upset that he gave you wrong advice.

It is shocking how many GPs give wrong or misleading information and the problem is that people then don't go back to them so they are never given any feedback.

He could say the same thing to another mum who might take his word for it and make her baby sick.






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