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Posted 17 March 2008 - 11:11 AM

That is great Sara! yay Cate!

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:19 PM

It's great that this is continuing to work for people. I know routines aren't for everyone, but I know it was a lifesaver for this little family!! Stick with it girls, it is worth it. Also remember that once you have it working well, there will still be times where it goes pear shaped due to illness, holidays, developmental stages etc. We've just been through a period of about 3 weeks like that and it's really easy to think that it's just not working and want to throw it all in. For us though, consistency was the key and we are now getting back to our happy selves again smile.gif

Anyway, I just want to know if you think I'm crazy. Tessa has started catnapping for the morning sleep and going for 60 - 80 minutes in the afternoons. She is still wide awake when I put her to bed at 6:30 - 7pm, so isn't exhausted on this amount of day sleep. She's also generally pretty happy. So...should I be thinking about moving her up to the 9 month routine? I know going from her age it's mega early, but I really reckon she could make it to 9:50am.

Another complication is that she's starting childcare next week (only 11:30am - 5:30pm). Our evenings are going to be super rushed to get her dinner, bath and BF in before 7pm.

Any advice? (I'm looking at you Amy...relying on your excellent knowledge of that book word for word!)

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:44 PM

Jess i think you could try the 9.50 bedtime and see how she goes on it. I was almost going to start that with Cooper too but found that by dropping his 4.30pm nap it stopped him catnapping for the other 2 sleeps smile.gif In regards to the childcare maybe you could get them to do her solids at 5pm (as per 9 month routine) and then you just need to bath and feed her when you get home.

Great to hear that Cate resettled herself today and also went down with minimal protest biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Enjoy some time out while she's sleeping!!!
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:49 PM

Ooh good idea Kylz (about dinner) I will ask them tomorrow if it's possible.

Tessa stopped having the 4:30pm nap months ago. I might try to push her out to 9:50am tomorrow and see where it gets me. Main thing is that she's really happy at the moment, so I'm happy too biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:57 PM

Jess, I've found with Sage in day care, depending on her day I can either follow the routine or its been stuffed up during the day with less/more sleep. So I go by her sleep cues on these days. Sometimes she comes home and she is falling asleep in her highchair so we skip the bath and she goes straight to bed. Other days we keep her up till around 7.30.

Thankfully it hasn't affected her too much on the days she isn't at day care and we can stick to the routine on those days and she is still really good and knows whats going on.

Even now that we have to be more flexible with the routine, she isn't a particularly difficult baby. So even if things are a bit out of wack time wise some days, she is still a happy bub majority of the time smile.gif
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 01:00 PM

laugh.gif Jess, Kaz is the SOS guru biggrin.gif

Jess, as long as she isn't waking earlier cos she is hungry, then I would give the next routine a go. If you think she can do the jump up straight away, good, but if not, make it a gradual thing, slowly extending her bedtime.

All bubs are different so Tessa might be ready. Taylor on the other hand has only in the last week consistently been going to sleep at 9.20am and 1.20pm biggrin.gif (and has just turned 9 months) I've just been playing it by ear and doing what I feel she needs each day as there is no way she is ready for the 9.50am sleep time laugh.gif

ETA: I like Kylz' suggestion for dinner. That will definitely ensure that you are able to get her to bed on time, or alternatively if giving that feed is a problem, would they let you feed Tessa her dinner when you arrive to pick her up without charging you more ?


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Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:32 AM

So glad you said that about illness, holidays etc Jess. We are heading off on holidays at the end of April and we are a little worried about how the routine will go there. But as Tizzie says you can always get them back into it once home.

Cate was so good yesterday. After our good morning sleep I headed out to a friends place. Took all her bedding, comforter etc. I was pleasently surprised that she went down for her 1pm sleep without too much protesting and slept for about 1hr 10min which I was so happy with. Last night was her usual protesting for 20min and then slept through until just before 7am.

Her sleep this morning is going well too. Put her down 10min early as she was so tired. She stirred at the 45-50 min mark but no protesting as such. SHe has now been asleep for 1hr 25min. I am crossing my fingers that she is turning the corner on the catnapping. It has been a hard 5 days but definitely worth it so far.

Nightimes are by far the hardest as she protests a lot more at night than during the day. Thankfully Matt is home at night too to help keep me sane. She protests so loudly and vigorously that it sounds like she is losing her voice sad.gif
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 12:51 PM

Sara that's awesome you are having such success smile.gif

My advice - and it is just my personal opinion - is to really try not to stress too much while your on hols if Cate's sleeping is a bit all over the place. I caused myself and my husband a great deal of unnecessary anxiety for the first half of our recent o/s trip, all because I was so upset about Tessa not sleeping well during the day. I got myself so worked up when I really should have been enjoying the time with my family sad.gif So, if you can, be as relaxed as you can about it. Because you know that it does work, just keep telling yourself that you'll sort it out when you get home. Of course, it's an added bonus to stick to the sleep times where you can smile.gif



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Posted 20 March 2008 - 10:39 AM

I am happy to report that we are on our 4th day of good day sleeps. Cate has been sleeping for 1.5 - 2 hours in the morning with only a little stir in the middle. Arvo sleeps are about 1hr 15min. And an arvo nap in the pram of 30-40min whilst walking.

Nighttime her protests are still pretty bad but she is asleep within 20 - 30min and sleeps through until 7am.

The only thing I worry about is her getting enough milk as she only has 4 feeds a day as we don't give a dreamfeed. She is having plenty of wet nappies and is putting on 250 - 300g a week in weight so I gues she must be getting enough. But her fontanelle often has a little dent in it which I have read is a sign of dehydration.

I am so proud of our little girl for adjusting to this routine so quickly wub.gif
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 11:01 AM

Wow, that's fantastic progress. Gives me hope.

I am thinking about getting the book & having a read as I think we are developing some habits that are going to make things difficult later on.

Can I just ask, at what stage/age does the book say you can start the self settling techniques?

My baby is only 5 weeks old but won't settle unless being rocked, patted or breast feeding. Also, she is VERY unsettled from around 5 - 9 each night, it is extreme tiredness & it seems impossible to get her to sleep until I go to sleep myself, otherwise she will wake as soon as I try to escape.
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 01:35 PM

Lollies - the book deals with settling and routines from 2 weeks of age. I have to say that it is very difficult to listen to the protesting and I don't know if I would have been confident enough or able to do it before now. Now I know that she is definitely just protesting and I am happy that I have got her feeding pretty much sorted so it make sit easier to deal with.

You need to be 100% sure you want to do it as it is hard and you really need to want to stick with it. I feel very blessed that it only took 5 days to start seeing results.

Having said that I can't recommend it highly enough so far. It all seems to have worked really well and I feel so much happier. It has helped me get back on track with the rest of my life too as I no longer feel that I just deal with Cate 100% of my day. Because she is sleeping for longer periods I get time out to do other things.
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 03:28 PM


I have the book, and I have to say that although I thought I would try the routines right away (from 2 weeks) I just don't feel ready to yet! So its great to hear that people are having success introducing them later. I'd say we'll try and start when Ruby is about 3 months. I would love to have her in a sleeping routine to give some structure to my days, but am happy to just go with the flow at the moment, even though it means I literally get nothing done a lot of the time laugh.gif
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE(KEJ @ Mar 20 2008, 04:28 PM) View Post

I have the book, and I have to say that although I thought I would try the routines right away (from 2 weeks) I just don't feel ready to yet! So its great to hear that people are having success introducing them later. I'd say we'll try and start when Ruby is about 3 months. I would love to have her in a sleeping routine to give some structure to my days, but am happy to just go with the flow at the moment, even though it means I literally get nothing done a lot of the time laugh.gif


we started around the 10 - 12 week mark with TAylor I think it was. That was all that I could handle of fighting sleeping laugh.gif


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Posted 20 March 2008 - 03:59 PM

We bought the book. Now just to read and start trying it. How long once you started did it start to work for you?
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 04:00 PM

How did you go with the routine when Taylor was that age Amy?

I was reading the book again the other day and wondering just how strict you need to be...for instance if the book allows 1 hr for a feed but you finisf sooner, can you put bubs down earlier or do you wait?

Also with breastfed babies she advises to take them off the breast and burp them every 3 mins...did anyone do that?
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