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helenaposs
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They're both fulfilling the same purpose, nourishing a hungry baby, there's nothing sexual about breastfeeding so what's the fuss?


It is funny that you mention that, reminded me of a story. We have a male friend who is horrified when any women breastfeeds in front of him. I always warn him that I am about to feed and then it is up to him if he stays in the room, watches or turns his head.

But one day I asked him why he had a problem with it and his reply was because breasts were sexual. He then said - Would Dom and I have sex in front of other people? I couldn't believe that he was saying that breastfeeding was like having sex. laugh.gif Some people have no idea!

I don't try and knock him for his opinion but I refuse to leave a room to breastfeed if he is in it.

Helena
~*Lanie*~
Anytime anywhere! I breastfed both my bubbas in public without a worry in the world! Yes, I used to cover up, but I had no difficulties covering up and feeding at the same time. In my experience, I found parenting rooms to be few and far between, often dirty, and lacking in space. If I neede to feed, I fed. If people didn't want to "see it" they simply didn't look! I think 9/10 you'd have to be looking pretty hard to spot a breastfeeding mother anyway as it's usually done so discretely!

I don't understand why something so natural, beneficial and essential (ETA: Essential as in baby is hungry/needs a feed, not as in breastfeeding is essential) to a baby can be deemed inappropriate blink.gif

Lanie
MrsJo
QUOTE (helenaposs @ Dec 7 2005, 10:03 AM)

But one day I asked him why he had a problem with it and his reply was because breasts were sexual. He then said - Would Dom and I have sex in front of other people? I couldn't believe that he was saying that breastfeeding was like having sex. laugh.gif Some people have no idea!

I don't try and knock him for his opinion but I refuse to leave a room to breastfeed if he is in it.

Helena

Hahaha this is so bad! As I recall, breastfeeding my son was about as unsexxii as you can get! Touch my breasts and you will probably get hit in the eye with a jet of milk, they hurt, so touch them and die, they leak, not fun. I have heard this comment a few times from men, that breasts are sexual items. Which of course does not go down well with me! They are only sexual items because men see them as their sexual plaything, but their intended purpose has more to do with feeding than sex! As much as we like them touched for pleasure, it is not their primary purpose for a breastfeeding mother!

Don't be too hard on him, (well you can be if you like, he can take one for the team!) he is not alone there! Maybe a few sessions of feeding in his presence will get him clear on the process not being sexxi at all!
MrsJo
QUOTE (fishgirl @ Dec 7 2005, 09:49 AM)
Oh Belladoah I didn't mean to imply you forced your own son to wean.




Sorry, didn't mean to get stuck into you. Tired, not thinking clearly, you know. Hugs!
helenaposs
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Touch my breasts and you will probably get hit in the eye with a jet of milk, they hurt, so touch them and die, they leak, not fun.


See my DH knows that my breasts are now Ava's not his! tongue.gif Well, for the time being anyway.

Helena
familyof4
I do it anytime anywhere. I get stares and dirty comments sometimes but ignore it. I did have a guy call me a slut the other day and I looked at him and said how'd you figure that? The worse thing with this was he was only 15 or 16, so I told him to shut up cause he wasn't old enough to know what it meant. he replied by telling me he has already "scored" with a dozen or so girls. My friend looked at him and said well that makes you a slut!!!! He was not happy and he walked away.

I say good on mums who bf in public this day and age you see more flesh on girls in their bikinis at the beach!!!!!
lexwithbub
QUOTE (Leapstar @ Dec 7 2005, 08:39 AM)
The way that I see it, is that its a biological function and nothing to be ashamed of... but having said that, so is peeing and going for a poo!

Now think about how many of us would be offended if men just stood around floppin out their bits to perform a perfectly natural boilogical function? We would not appreciate it, and in fact you can be arrested for doing this!!

why on earth would you relate a baby breasyfeeding to someone pooing or weeing???

there is a difference btween EATING and EXCRETING... therefore we eat at the table, and poo in the loo, not the other way round

rolleyes.gif
gogogadgetgirl
QUOTE (Familyof4 @ Dec 7 2005, 10:29 AM)
I did have a guy call me a slut the other day

OH GOOD LORD!!!!

Wonder how he was fed as a baby, eh?

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Sorry, didn't mean to get stuck into you

No that's OK, I'm easily misunderstood! I was apologising to you! tongue.gif

mer
Kell
I voted anytime, anywhere. Flop them out women!!! Be proud of your ability to nourish your child! Geebus, in SOME countries, women are topless all the time! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

LOL, I think its a beautiful thing, the same way I think pregnant tummies are beautiful, stretch marks and all, and I love seeing a pregnant belly in the same sense.

I breastfed Finn, in public if needed, and I have big boobs, so it wasn;t easy to be discreet at times! My poor Dad couldn't cope, he would leave the room for fear he'd accidentally see something, rofl.
~*Lanie*~
QUOTE (Kell @ Dec 7 2005, 11:42 AM)
My poor Dad couldn't cope, he would leave the room for fear he'd accidentally see something, rofl.

laugh.gif My dad was the same - I think that's a Dad thing though!

My youngest brother was very very accepting of it for a young kid though. Where my two other brothers would leave the room, it didn't bother him at all. I wonder if that has anyhing to do with him being breastfed until he was about 3 and a half (I think. Could have been longer).
~*MrsJ*~
Gosh I'd love to Breastfeed - I have scars from here to breakfast - that'd scare em more than the boobs! ROFL

rolleyes.gif

I look at Mum's breastfeeding - only coz I think it's pretty amazing!

lexwithbub
I'll repeat what i said in the other thread...

breastfeeding is NOT, i repeat NOT about the boobs, it's not about sex, or 'bodily functions'... it's about FOOD, about feeding our littlest citizens.

LOL kell re: your dad leaving the room!

And viva the national geographic channel! LOL!
flic
I voted anytime, anywhere. If bubs is hungry it needs to be fed. When I was trying to cast a 14 month old child once who was crying and screaming (I don’t blame him, strange person, strange environment doing a strange thing to his legs) Mum kept flopping her breasts out in front of him trying to get him to take one to comfort him. At the time I was rather uncomfortable and embarrassed as I was unsure where to look, but she was doing it to comfort her screaming child and was perfectly comfortable doing it and I realised, hey, this is my problem not hers. If a child is in need of food or comfort and the mother feels comfortable feeding in public, that’s fine by me, if it makes me feel uncomfortable, that’s my problem not hers and I can look elsewhere/go elsewhere, whereas the baby needs to be fed.
laura7
I confess I feel a bit uncomfortable with women breastfeeding openly in public - I'd prefer them to go to a parents room, their car, or a more private place if possible, or at least be very discreet. I don't mind it at all if it's someone I know in my home, or whatever, but somehow in the middle of the shops or something just makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. However I'm not a mother and I'm sure my perceptions and opinions will change when I am (a long way off).
Thelma
QUOTE (lee_p @ Dec 7 2005, 09:08 AM)
As for the woman BF in church...why should she have to miss out on being a part of the service just because she's doing what God intended her breasts to do??

I don't know about Rosy's Church, but at my Church the mother's room has one-sided glass and speakers in it, so you can still hear and see the Church service.

I don't mind seeing mothers breastfeed as long as it's discreet. I also think that if there is a mothers room that is handy that they should use it (as long as it is decent, I understand that some are worse than toilets)
Hana
I voted "it's OK with me - anywhere, anytime".

I was a bit self conscious initially with Mackenzie and so did not always feel comfortable out anywhere doing it, but I have no problem with other mothers doing it wherever and whenever they want.

It's funny, I wish I had been stronger, particularly around my FIL. I know he felt embarrassed so I used to go into another room. Annoying thing was though that I then had to disappear at his place and at my own. Next time, I am not changing my behaviour in my own house...
lexwithbub
QUOTE (*Lib* @ Dec 7 2005, 11:11 AM)
Sometimes I must look like a weirdo because I can't look away!!!

LOL! you probably ALWAYS look like a wierdo! laugh.gif

but my silly jokes aside tthat is a beautifil thing fo you to say, that you are in awe.

thankyou!
gogogadgetgirl
I love to look too Lib so we are both weirdos! And I don't mind anyone watching me either, as long as they smile and don't scowl!

I have had people here come up and pat his cheek while feeding! A *little* offputting sometimes! And I don't know how many times I've been in the bank or somewhere and some old Korean grandma has announced to everyone "LOOK! That baby's BREASTFEEDING!" then everyone stares.
stephanie_kaye
my uneasiness around babies and pregnant women extends to BF I am afraid. And I think (and this may change with expereince) but if a clean parents room was provided then I would definately be using that. Also as soon as the child can hold a bottle it's over.
Vicki
so what if you cant do it discretly? What if the parents room is at the other end of the shopping centre and your kid is screaming? I tell you what happens, people give you filthy looks as if to say 'why dont you feed that child and stop it screaming'
lazuli
i don't find it uncomfortable - it's not like someone is doing it specifically to show me their boob. Even when friends i've been around have breastfeed right in front of me - a moment or two to avert the eyes which they attach bubba, and then it's like the baby it just there - little breastage to be seen!

in my current frame of mind, i would 'cover up' with something over the shoulder (depending on the shirt i guess!) - for my own shyness reasons - but then i figure by the time i've been through the 'leave your dignity at the door' phases of pregnancy and birth, i might get over the body hangups!
Mamma Mia
THere are not always parent's rooms in small towns. There most certainly aren't where I live, therefore I had to make do with whereever and whatever I could.

I remember on my way to melbourne (7hr drive without stops) when Mia was 4 or 5 months old we stopped at Maccas for lunch, I sat in a corner far away from everyone else as not to offend anyone, then sat the baby bag infront of me so no boobie was shown and and old couple who were sitting a few tables away looked at me with such distaste and then moved to the other side of the building ohmy.gif

I love watching babies breast feed too (and get jealous because I wish I'd done it for longer). I also get that 'let downy' feeling occasionally when I hear a little baby cry (yes I am weird too!).
Alani
QUOTE (vickichiki @ Dec 6 2005, 10:52 PM)
in was one of the responses in the poll Alani

ok thanks. I missed that part. blink.gif
~Alicia~
QUOTE (Princess Megs @ Dec 7 2005, 09:59 AM)
I personally (as I already emntioned smile.gif ) don't see any difference between breastfeeding or bottlefeeding. No one blinks an eye at seing a mother bottlefeeding their baby, so why shoudl they with breastfeeding?

Funny you should say that.

I know ALOT of people that have gotten the dirty looks because they were bottle feeding and not breastfeeding.
Bottle feeders cop the same amount of discrimination as breastfeeders do trust me.

I cant count the amount of times I have been told that its a shame i didnt breastfeed my baby. People do blink and when they do they also speak and what comes out of their mouths isnt real nice.
Alani
QUOTE (~Alicia~ @ Dec 7 2005, 12:51 PM)
Funny you should say that.

I know ALOT of people that have gotten the dirty looks because they were bottle feeding and not breastfeeding.
Bottle feeders cop the same amount of discrimination as breastfeeders do trust me.

I cant count the amount of times I have been told that its a shame i didnt breastfeed my baby. People do blink and when they do they also speak and what comes out of their mouths isnt real nice.

Halleleuliah Alicia! And usually it's breastfeeding mothers who are the ones quick to attack bottle feeders..... dry.gif
~Alicia~
Bows to Alani

I knew someone else would have had the same problem
-Megs-
QUOTE (~Alicia~ @ Dec 7 2005, 01:51 PM)
Funny you should say that.

I know ALOT of people that have gotten the dirty looks because they were bottle feeding and not breastfeeding.
Bottle feeders cop the same amount of discrimination as breastfeeders do trust me.

I cant count the amount of times I have been told that its a shame i didnt breastfeed my baby. People do blink and when they do they also speak and what comes out of their mouths isnt real nice.

So since people are giving women dirty looks for bottle feeding and people are giving women dirty looks for breastfeeding, how the heck are babies meant to get fed?????? blink.gif

Why do people feel that they are entitled to judge another person's choice??? Let the poor women feed their bubbas however they can and wherever/whenever/however they want!
~Alicia~
Megs your guess is as good as mine
Alani
QUOTE (Princess Megs @ Dec 7 2005, 01:05 PM)
Why do people feel that they are entitled to judge another person's choice??? Let the poor women feed their bubbas however they can and wherever/whenever/however they want!

It's human nature that's why.

I agree that people should be able to feed "wherever/whenever/however they want!", like I've said I'm not comfortable with breastfeeding - if you are then that's great - I'm just not going to hang around while you're doing it.
Jaime
QUOTE (~Alicia~ @ Dec 7 2005, 01:51 PM)
Funny you should say that.

I know ALOT of people that have gotten the dirty looks because they were bottle feeding and not breastfeeding.
Bottle feeders cop the same amount of discrimination as breastfeeders do trust me.

I cant count the amount of times I have been told that its a shame i didnt breastfeed my baby. People do blink and when they do they also speak and what comes out of their mouths isnt real nice.

God help anyone who has a go at me for bottle feeding!!! ohmy.gif Won't they get told off like they never have before?!?!!

ETA: also meant to say I'm a supporter of BFing anywhere, anytime. I thought I'd be one of those women that would have a problem with everyone looking at my breasts, but honestly while we were trying to establish it, there could've been a marching band there for all I cared. That was what my breasts were for and I was going to BF no matter who was there. It did make some people uncomfortable, mainly one of my BIL's that was visiting but I think he only left the room because he thought I was embarrased!! I'll be trying to do it again with our next baby and when he/she wants to be fed... well thats when it happens!!
Alani
hey Jaime, I love Jayden's security tee shirt - where did you get that?
Jaime
QUOTE (Alani @ Dec 7 2005, 02:16 PM)
hey Jaime, I love Jayden's security tee shirt - where did you get that?

Thanks!! its so cute isn't it?? biggrin.gif We got it from Big W, about a month ago. I think they're still there.
Chr!st!ne
what a facinating topic.

i voted discreetly, i wouldnt feel comfortable bfeeding in public and i know h2b wouldnt want me to.

i feel that it is bonding time that i feel should be done in private. Eg. if i were at home and people were over, i would go to my bedroom to feed.

i dont think bfeeding and eating like we do can be compared either. one involves plates and cutlery or hand to mouth action, not b00b to baby.

JMO, but it sounds like alot of people have a bit of a chip on their shoulder and will do it whenever where ever just to make a point, i am generalising here but thats the impression that i get from a few women, not from here but in general.

BTW hasnt anyone heard to a b/pump?
Magnolia
QUOTE (Christine @ Dec 7 2005, 02:01 PM)

JMO, but it sounds like alot of people have a bit of a chip on their shoulder and will do it whenever where ever just to make a point, i am generalising here but thats the impression that i get from a few women, not from here but in general.


I wouldn't say that people have a chip on their shoulder, people just come from different levels of understanding.

I've only ever noticed one woman breastfeeding in public. (very observant aren't I?) and I thought oh, wow, never seen that before. Then "whatever" and kept walking.

Many people have commented about people's reactions to breasts as a sexual one, well if you're a male, or never had children, then of course it's going to be a sexual one.

Having said that, I think that women should be able to breastfeed where ever they like and when ever it is necessary. And if people choose to be offended, then they should keep it to themselves and not make comments.
Jaime
QUOTE (Christine @ Dec 7 2005, 02:31 PM)
what a facinating topic.

i voted discreetly, i wouldnt feel comfortable bfeeding in public and i know h2b wouldnt want me to.

i dont think bfeeding and eating like we do can be compared either. one involves plates and cutlery or hand to mouth action, not b00b to baby.

i feel that it is bonding time that i feel should be done in private. Eg. if i were at home and people were over, i would go to my bedroom to feed.

JMO, but it sounds like alot of people have a bit of a chip on their shoulder and will do it whenever where ever just to make a point, i am generalising here but thats the impression that i get from a few women, not from here but in general.

BTW hasnt anyone heard to a b/pump?

Christine, are you getting at expressing prior to going out an bottlefeeding? If so, you should know that some babies will not take a bottle if BF'ing - they just flat out refuse it, and expressing with a pump can actually diminish your supply, because its so different to actual BF'ing. Expressing can also take up to 30 mins to get even 20 mls, even if your baby is a good feeder. There are so many reasons why expressing is not always a viable option.

I think a lot of women would take exception to them being told they have 'a chip on their shoulder' re: BF'ing. Its really not to make a point, its for the well being of their child, and as women its our right to feed our children either breast or bottle!!!
Its actually illegal to be asked to move because you are BF'ing your child.
Tennille75
I'm sure we've all heard of using a breast pump, but why should we feel it's necessary to use one when breast feeding is so natural? If the mother doesn't have a problem with feeding her baby naturally in public, then there shouldn't need to be an issue.

eta: Jaime makes a good point too, it's just not possible for some to express and successfully feed their babies enough.
Profile Removed
I don't think anything against breastfeeding and I applaud those who openly feed their children.

To me, seeing a woman breastfeed her baby is nothing in comparison to seeing teenagers (and other ages) wear skanky, next-to-nothing clothes or in summer when you see men stroll around shopping centres without a shirt.

Breastfeeding is natural and I can only hope that I am able to feed Logan out in public. I think for me it will be a little hard at first as I am not overly comfortable getting my boob out even for a little bit, so I will be feeding him in parent's rooms etc until I feel comfortable enough to be in 'open air' so-to-speak.
Kell
I agree, each to their own, parenting is a hard enough gig without the guilt and judgements we place on one another over all these kinds of issues.

Be it for bottle feeding, breastfeeding in public, or cloth v disposable or whatever. Be passionate about what you believe in, but respect the rights of others to do things differently.

Remember, every child is different, every mother is different - there is no way what you perceive as the "right" thing, will therefore be right for all these varied match ups of child and parent.

Mums work the hardest job, no annual leave, no sick days, 24/7 - It upsets me that as nurturers and caregivers, we as mothers turn on one another, when we are the ones who truly can offer the great support that would make it that bit easier.

Goodness. How non-controversial of me, I must need a lie down and a ccol facecloth.
Alani
QUOTE (Kell @ Dec 7 2005, 01:55 PM)
Goodness. How non-controversial of me, I must need a lie down and a ccol facecloth.

Kell, go and have a bex and a lie down - the heat must be getting to you! laugh.gif
Miss Insignificant
I bf in public, but always discreetly as possible. I would use a cloth nappy, put one corner up under my bra strap so it wouldn't blow away, and cover up. Most people could tell what i was doing, they just couldn't see the pink bits..

Had a few times as bubs got older they would reef the nappy down as it blocked their view and expose mummy (eek!!)

I find it interesting the people who say they would leave the room or go to a parents room etc...

IN the real world, you get scenario's like this..

You meet 3 freinds for coffee, sit down, place orders, bub starts grumbling ( You think, I just fed you, ya little guts, you CAN'T be hungry AGAIN!!)

coffee and cake arrive, bub is getting quite vocal by now.. So, decision made - feed baby.

Do you?

A. Go to parents room/car and feed bub as suggested by some. Come back, coffee is cold, cake is dried out, and have to reorder..... or

B. Get comfy, cover up, feed bub, enjoy cake, enjoy coffee, enjoy time with freinds and feel great bub got morning tea too.

Breastfeeding is very rewarding, but can also be very isolating. Constantly leaving a room when you have visitors or are visiting, or in church etc... will leave you feeling isolated from the rest of the world..

Be discreet, and enjoy the experience...

But please don't expect a woman to leave the room just to feed a baby..

Natalie
Kell
QUOTE (Alani @ Dec 7 2005, 02:57 PM)
Kell, go and have a bex and a lie down - the heat must be getting to you! laugh.gif

I know girls, maybe its the apocolypse. And can I say to people - Report THAT post and get my warn reversed dammit!! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif
Chr!st!ne
oh i knew i was going to step on a few toes here!

i just think we are all clearly of different opinions and thats fine, i can only imagine how frustrating it is to have a screaming child and i suppose you would just have to because you have to feed in public.

just in my experience mothers have been a little 'whatever' about the subject. i cant say i come accross the subject often, so it is hard to have opinions that are based on what you see in public and not family or friend related.

dont mean to offend any of the mums here. just 'expressing' my opinion, like the rest of you are.
Chr!st!ne
QUOTE (Kell @ Dec 7 2005, 01:55 PM)
I agree, each to their own, parenting is a hard enough gig without the guilt and judgements we place on one another over all these kinds of issues.


totally 100% agree
Annabel
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Breastfeeding is very rewarding, but can also be very isolating. Constantly leaving a room when you have visitors or are visiting, or in church etc... will leave you feeling isolated from the rest of the world..

Be discreet, and enjoy the experience...

But please don't expect a woman to leave the room just to feed a baby..


Well said. Having a baby is an isolating enough experience as it is without adding breastfeeding in private to the list.
gogogadgetgirl
QUOTE (Christine @ Dec 7 2005, 02:06 PM)
just in my experience mothers have been a little 'whatever' about the subject.

I am "whatever" about it when I'm out and about - my son needs to eat, fine, here you go, whatever! I am certainly not going to scan the room and consider how strangers who I don't even know might feel about it. It is no big deal to feed my baby when he needs it, what should I do, ask everyone's permission?

It's interesting that there have been a few responses about reactions to bottle-feeding too. Wouldn't you say though that those giving disapproving looks are not doing it because of your feeding location, that it is a seperate issue altogether?

Everyone should happily accept whichever means we have to feed our babies, and let it all happen together with no-one having to go away.
Kosi
I voted anywhere as long as the breast and baby are covered. Only cause it is a little uncomfortable when a stranger has their boob hanging out for all to see (even though it is a good purpose).
Do it anywhere you like, just don't be an exhibitonist about it.
~Alicia~
QUOTE (fishgirl @ Dec 7 2005, 03:16 PM)
It's interesting that there have been a few responses about reactions to bottle-feeding too. Wouldn't you say though that those giving disapproving looks are not doing it because of your feeding location, that it is a seperate issue altogether?


What do you mean by that?
It shouldnt matter where anyone feeds their baby bottle or breast why should we get disaproving looks at all?
Chr!st!ne
when i say 'what ever' i mean blaze' (sp?), like a real attitude 'that i shal not be inconvenienced because i have a baby'. Not saying that you are an inconvenience if you b/feed, but thats also what i meant when i say a bit of chip on their shoulder. Maybe i have encountered some weird mothers, and not the nouturing kind?

for something i really dont encounter on daily basis, it seems to be very passionate argument for alot of people. i suppose if you have experienced comments or wierd looks, of course you will say "when ever, where ever" (we all sound liek Shakira now!) almost like a silent protest 'i am mother and i will provide!'
Chr!st!ne
QUOTE (*Lib* @ Dec 7 2005, 03:24 PM)
Personally I am over the holyier than thou attitude that the breast feeding debate always ends up as.

who is holyier?
Chr!st!ne
it is a very sensitive topic and one that always gets a few people fired up.

i guess its just a topic that will divide people for ever and thats just the way it will go?

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