Sarah Kate
Sep 1 2009, 10:35 AM
Monica, I don't think you are being a bitch at all. In fact I would be a little concerned for your nephew. It it your husbands brother or sister?
I agree with Emma, maybe getting her some reading material because it really doesn't sound like he is getting much in the way of feeds or food. As for co-sleeping, each to their own but I hope she doesn't complain too much when the child is in a foul mood from lack of sleep
_Alana_
Sep 1 2009, 11:02 AM
Monica each to their own your not being a bitch your being concerned for you nephews weel being. Dont stress too much about it though just focus on your family.
As for us:
Co-Sleeping - not for us
Demand Feeding - not for us
Baby led solids - not for us
No Vacs - not for us where as Delayed vaccs & No MMR - is for us ( me ). And i already cope enough crap about that.
~Emma~
Sep 1 2009, 11:31 AM
Alana - FTR we're also contemplating splitting the MMR at 12 months... Will be seeking my doctors advice a bit closer to the time. I haven't told anyone of that choice cause simply there opions don't bother me..
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 11:37 AM
She reads loads of stuff.
It's funny, her and I read the exact same books whilst pregnant but we are total opposites when it comes to parenting our children.
She is my DH's sister.
Her FB status yesterday was "Don't know what to do with myself after 8 hours sleep" - I';m not sure whether her DH looked after the baby or the baby slept that long (with a few feeds through the night). She could have that ALL the time if she just put a little structure in their lives.
My MIL stayed with them and told me she used a spoon whilst SIL was out and he ate two bowls of pureed veggies -that to me speaks volumes
QUOTE(Monica @ Sep 1 2009, 09:29 AM)

They co-sleep. I don't agree with this but each to their own.
I believe it creates problems as is evidenced in their household. The baby (who is 8.5 months old) won't sleep and never has without either parent present so as you can imagine, day sleeps are non-existent and as a result he is always grizzly. They have put him to sleep ONCE in his cot but THEY missed him and got him out. They believe (read my SIL, my BIL just goes along with her for the sake of peace) thinks he will grow out of it. Hello tresillian!
I know babies come in all shapes and sizes but he is the same height as Nina (which is 10th percentile for his age) and the same band for weight and he wasn't small born.
Agh! How frustrating to sit back and watch someone made bad child rearing decisions. I for one, am very against co-sleeping. Don't read me wrong, Will & I have naps together all the time (at least once a week) where he falls straight asleep after his feed, and he & I sleep together while he nibbles at the breast. I generally find when he's out of sorts, it works to calm him down and 'bond' us back together.
But i can't figure out how people think that babies will 'grow out of' co-sleeping. It's like teaching someone that 1+1= 4, and then waiting for them to figure out that's not the case. It also makes me wonder about their marriage- physical intimacy is so important to men, they can't be getting much alone time if the baby is sleeping with them.
I'd also be worried about his weight
QUOTE(_Alana_ @ Sep 1 2009, 11:02 AM)

No Vacs - not for us where as Delayed vaccs & No MMR - is for us ( me ). And i already cope enough crap about that.
I did read your other thread Alana, it was interesting. With you not getting the MMR- are you missing it entirely or just getting them in seperate doses? The mumps and rubella are fairly uncommon but i thought that measels is still a fairly common childhood illness? I could be wrong, i haven't really looked at this.
The other thing about skipping immunisations (and Lana, i'm talking about skipping, not delaying) is that when they get older, don't you have to prove that you've had a full round of vaccinations before you can travel? What happens if their kid ends up in some remote, middle of nowhere place that still has TB and all those other nasties? I just think it's a stupid decision- i don't want to mince my words on this one, it's just stupid.
QUOTE(Monica @ Sep 1 2009, 11:37 AM)

Her FB status yesterday was "Don't know what to do with myself after 8 hours sleep" - I';m not sure whether her DH looked after the baby or the baby slept that long (with a few feeds through the night). She could have that ALL the time if she just put a little structure in their lives.
That's exactly what i thought! I was sleeping 8 hours a night from the day William came home from hospital (interrupted by one 3am feed) and now we do 8 straight hours. No wonder her house is a total mess, the poor thing must be exhausted- no more than 8 hours sleep in eight months? That's a torture method!
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 12:20 PM
When my DH asked her about the vacs the other day, we discussed it at length for quite some time. She then comes out with "What's with the polio shot anyways, it doesn't exist, why do they even need it" I had to explain to her the reason it doesn't exist (in this country, it does exist elsewhere) is BECAUSE of our blanket vaccination system, we have eradicated it through vaccinations for now but an OS traveller can still bring it in to the country.
God she makes me angry
nephthys
Sep 1 2009, 12:26 PM
Hi all!
We vaccinate and I'm staunch in my view on this I'm afraid! It is very important to as a family and a community that our children are properly immunised. In my opinion, not vaccinating is as dangerous as not properly restraining your child in a car. The chance of having a car accident and injuring our children isn't high, yet the risk is still great enough that we will restrain our children properly (even though the harnesses can cause just as much injury) and yet so many will take the risk of their children catching a disease? Even though it was beyond awful seeing my little boy's face crumple up when the needle went into his thigh, it'd be worse seeing him in hospital with tubes hanging out of his body because he's caught something preventable.
We co-sleep occasionally; when it's 3am, I can't settle him and I'm desperate for sleep. He crashes out almost straight away when he's cuddled up next to me and even though I always have the intention of putting him into his bed when he's asleep, it's usually him that wakes me later on. It's not a common thing, more out of necessity and I make no apology for it. I figure any difficulties this may cause later on will be the cost of the joy of sleeping with my baby in my arms while he still fits.

I never though I'd do co-sleeping but there is something very reassuring about having your child protected and safe and sleeping in your arms.
Demand feeding - when DS was little we did this and how he's more on a parent-led schedule but we still demand feed occasionally if needs it. Growth spurts usually throw out our routines so I'm open to being flexible. I'm introducing all foods very slowly and he's had a taste of Farex and banana (he loved the nana!) with the intention of giving him a little more each week. I've heard that before 12 months, and solids should be a treat, not a main diet source, but this was from an essential baby rant so I'm not sure how reliable it is.

MON - what the-! Your SIL has no idea obviously. Children are a huge investment in time and if you're not prepared for it, then keep your legs closed or the condom on.

There's my rant.

My BIL's partner has done similar things to her child too and it's so frustrating to see this seven year old girl with no social skills, severe behavioural problems and physical difficulties when 95% of them would have been preventable had the mother not been so stoned on dope that she could have raised her properly. I feel so sorry for your little nephew and although I don't like the idea of going behind the mother's back, I think some intervention might be necessary on his behalf. I know your load is really full but could you offer to babysit occasionally and give him a decent meal?
Well DH and I had a good talk last night ago and after lots of prayer and thought, decided that going back to full-time work, despite the financial difficulty of it, is not in our family's best interest at this time. I'm overjoyed.

I was getting physically sick at the idea of going back to full time work next month and having to put my little man into full time care. It wouldn't be fair on our marriage, on DS, on my health, on the study; only our finances. So I'm going back into the job market (gulp!) to look for the elusive part time job. I'm still studying and intend on opening up my bookkeeping business as soon as possible but it will take in reality, mid next year by the time I'm qualified. It's scary to think I'm giving up a perfectly good job in a time when the employment market is so slow but it's a risk that our family has to take.
Well my little one is waking up from his usual 20 min catnap again. *sigh* he's never been a good day sleeper so I have to try and settle him again!
**Bee**
Sep 1 2009, 12:26 PM
QUOTE(Nyree @ Sep 1 2009, 07:57 AM)

We are off to Playgroup this morning. Our Organiser is stepping down and I’ve put my name forward for the job. We’ll see if anyone else is up for it or if it’s me. No one has shown an interest over the past couple of weeks when it’s been mentioned so I might land it.
Goodluck Nyree hope you get the organiser position
Mon- I understand were you are coming from with your SIL. I would feel sorry for the little guy too

Sounds like he very well could be hungry. I guess because we all do things so differently these days and there are so many options now it just makes things harder. I hate the way some of my friends do things but I guess they are only doing what they feel is right. I just hope he isnt starving the poor guy. As for co sleeping... Thats not for us at all and I need my own space and that where I get it. I need time with Damo and thats our time. Will be interesting to see how he is when he is older. I couldnt imagine having a 4 year old in bed with us everynight and if she has more is she going to let them all in bed with her?? Imagine having 5 in the bed
Damo just preordered me the pink live in australia DVD

God I love him
Nyree
Sep 1 2009, 12:46 PM
Monica, no you are not being a bitch. I get mad at some of my friends because of their decisions. Each to their own but sometimes I just don't understand and it frustrates me.
Neph, good to hear you and DH had a really good chat and worked out what’s best for your family.
Bee, that is so cool that Damien has ordered that DVD for you!
Vaccinations: A must in our house. When they're due, no delays and no skipping any of them.
Co-Sleeping: Not for us.
Solids: We will use a spoon at first.
Demand Feeding: Yes. Alan has worked himself into a routine but it changes when he has a growth spurt.
Well it looks like I am the new Playgroup Co-Ordinater

I'm so excited!
Guess what... when I got home I had a massive parcel in front of my door. We hadn't ordered anything and I had no clue what it could possibly be... until... it read that the sender was My Child Magazine! I subscribed to that mag a few weeks ago and they had a special offer that you could go into the draw to win a 'Silver Cross Pop' Stroller (worth around $300). I WON IT! I didn't even know... they just delivered it.
Now I'm waiting for my third lucky thing to happen
~Emma~
Sep 1 2009, 01:09 PM
WOW... so much going on!! I agree with pretty much what everyone else has said about co-sleeping and vacs! Even though we're contemplating splitting the MMR she will have them all, whether it be together or seperate.
I just finished up making some vegies for Soph. Just did sweet potato at the moment cause i know she really likes that

i had 3 avg sized ones, i steamed them, then rough pureed them and it filled 4 ice cube trays, so 56 cubes. Should last a while (4 weks at 2 cubes x 1 meal a day

) She isn't into the fruits as much at the moment, im considering just using the sachets, but might try some fresh banana.. Didn't realaise i could try that yet, thanks Nep

Does anyone know when we can introduce yoghurts?
Nyree- how exciting about the stroller! are you going to keep it? or sell it off? I would love to win something, but i never do

have seen a few that mention day sleeps aren't that great? we went thru a few weeks of horrible day sleeps and that coinsided with me being a bit slack with her routine. Since we picked it back up, she has been having 2 x 2 hour sleeps (sometimes 2.5 hours) and a 1 hour sleep.
I bought a new stickmaster plus blender thing, i had an old crappy stick mix thing and it just didnt cut it, this one is awesome, and im going to look forward to making her food now!! haha
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 01:09 PM
Wow Nyree, that is FANTASTIC, congratulations.
AS for the co-sleeping, I have been known to take Nina in to bed with me when she won't settle at 3am, I don't really consider this to be co-sleeping, more gaining my sanity whilst I get some sleep!
I must say, I am not with them 24/7, Sunday might have just been a bad day for them where he didn't feel like eating, still though, I might speak to DH about it a bit more. I did ask her if he has set meal times and things he eats (cereal for breakfast, vegies for lunch etc etc ) and she said no
QUOTE(nephthys @ Sep 1 2009, 12:26 PM)

We co-sleep occasionally; when it's 3am, I can't settle him and I'm desperate for sleep. He crashes out almost straight away when he's cuddled up next to me and even though I always have the intention of putting him into his bed when he's asleep, it's usually him that wakes me later on. It's not a common thing, more out of necessity and I make no apology for it. I figure any difficulties this may cause later on will be the cost of the joy of sleeping with my baby in my arms while he still fits.

I never though I'd do co-sleeping but there is something very reassuring about having your child protected and safe and sleeping in your arms.
Growth spurts usually throw out our routines so I'm open to being flexible.
Well DH and I had a good talk last night ago and after lots of prayer and thought, decided that going back to full-time work, despite the financial difficulty of it, is not in our family's best interest at this time.
Hooray! That's so great you can work it out so you can stay at home. It takes a bit of work, but part-time jobs can be found.
I totally agree with your position on co-sleeping, and we don't stick to our routine during growth spurts either- i feed whenever he wants it, because growth spurts are also about getting my body up to speed with his!
QUOTE(**Bee** @ Sep 1 2009, 12:26 PM)

Damo just preordered me the pink live in australia DVD

God I love him

Ohh...i'd love to see that! Lucky you, such a sweet thing for ordering it for you

QUOTE(Nyree @ Sep 1 2009, 12:46 PM)

Well it looks like I am the new Playgroup Co-Ordinater

I'm so excited!
Guess what... when I got home I had a massive parcel in front of my door. We hadn't ordered anything and I had no clue what it could possibly be... until... it read that the sender was My Child Magazine! I subscribed to that mag a few weeks ago and they had a special offer that you could go into the draw to win a 'Silver Cross Pop' Stroller (worth around $300). I WON IT! I didn't even know... they just delivered it.
Now I'm waiting for my third lucky thing to happen

What a great day! Such a fantastic pram, and playgroup co-ordinator! Wow! Well done

QUOTE(~Emma~ @ Sep 1 2009, 01:09 PM)

I bought a new stickmaster plus blender thing, i had an old crappy stick mix thing and it just didnt cut it, this one is awesome, and im going to look forward to making her food now!! haha
Ohhh...i really want one of those too!
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 01:45 PM
I want one of those stick blenders and also a saucepan/colander steamer combo for the stove top.
Also, just to clarify, I wasn't having a god at anyone that does demand feed. I just don't have a 'hungry' baby so have never had to feed more than 3-4 hours
~Emma~
Sep 1 2009, 02:35 PM
the one i got was quite expensive ($75) but i was looking forward and it it pretty damn strng so will be able to mince meat up etc etc...
~Emma~
Sep 1 2009, 03:27 PM
just tried to put sophie down for her sleep unwrapped in the gro bag and she screamed, i wrapped her, and asleep within seconds.
**Bee**
Sep 1 2009, 03:48 PM
Nyree - Well today seems to have been a fantastic day for you! Smiles all round

Goodwork
Emma - Thanks for reminding me what I had to do today and forgot

I was going to cook up the pumpkin I got the other day

Must get onto it now. I am going to start getting a heap of food together now. Re the yoghurt... I think I started around 6 months. I used the Vaalia one with Breanna and she loved it

Its formulated from 6months +
toffee
Sep 1 2009, 04:07 PM
Nyree - awesome news on the stroller. what a lovely surprise
Congrats on becoming playgroup co-ordinator!
Mon, i don't think your being bitchy, sounds like your nephew is a bit hungry. I have no idea how you discuss this with your SIL without causing problems. Perhaps your BIL needs to try using a spoon with your nephew when your SIL isn't home & then tell her how good it worked? might come across better saying he just tried it for curiosity sake rather than sounding judgemental on her parenting. Is this the same people that were feeding the baby in the car whilst it was moving & the child was unrestrained?
Nepth, that's great that you & hubby have to come to an understanding & a plan of action. I'm still procrastinating over what to do. Glad the info i sent you was of some help
I'm thinking i'll only work part time till DS has outgrown his reflux, i'd love to work part time forever but i don't know that its practical. If only the mortgage would pay itself!
Vaccinations - yep we do them as they're due. I don't want to put my baby at risk.
Co sleeping - only when i'm exhausted.
Demand feeding - pretty much yes, although DS tends to go 3 hrs between feeds anyway
Solids - not started yet.
8 hrs sleep - wouldn't know. Still very much unheard of in this house. I'm up at least once per night, usually twice & on a bad night 4 times. Sometimes i wish i had an easier baby but oh well.
Took DS to chiro this morning, they ran a scanner over his back & there were 2 spots that he has problems, one is up at the top of his spine & the other is about half way down. So we have 2 apptmts per week for 3 weeks & we'll see if this helps. I don't know what else to try.
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 04:30 PM
Yep, same people Toffee.
She says that everything she does is for the good of the baby and won't use chemical in the house, wash his clothes in washing powder etc etc but then she doesn't feed him enough and has him unrestrained in a moving car, it makes no sense does it.
Hope the chiro helps the reflux situation Toffee.
I don't know why I bother as every time it doesn't turn out. My oven is old and shit and cooks very unevenly as I always say I am never going to bake another thing in their again. Well I had 3 bananas that were black so thought I would try a banana loaf. Well it's all cooked except for the middle which is still gooey. Damn.
I'm going to send my SIL a text now just to ask if his appetite has improved since Sunday. Will report back.
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 04:41 PM
She replied.
Yeah thanx, he has milk, trout and vegies for lunch and milk and yoghurt for breakfast. He gets distracted when we are out and can loose interest in food, typical toddler behaviour"
perhaps I am over reacting, though I would have thought toast or cereal for breakfast would be more substantial though she did tell me she doesn't like giving him bread
QUOTE(Monica @ Sep 1 2009, 04:41 PM)

She replied.
Yeah thanx, he has milk, trout and vegies for lunch and milk and yoghurt for breakfast. He gets distracted when we are out and can loose interest in food, typical toddler behaviour"
Weirdest mother ever. She has issues feeding him bread, but can be bothered making TROUT for an 18 month old???
_Alana_
Sep 1 2009, 06:37 PM
emma - i was just literally at coles and the baby yoghurts say 6 months and over. Whether this is different in home made yougurt ???
For the Record - we will not be having the MMR. He is due for his 4 Months this week - he will not be having them until he is completely free of croup and has weaned off the steriods. This from now on will be done seperatly each month not in one go. Called me stupid if you wish........ but i will do what im comfortable doing for my son.
Monica
Sep 1 2009, 06:48 PM
QUOTE(***Amy*** @ Sep 1 2009, 06:01 PM)

Weirdest mother ever. She has issues feeding him bread, but can be bothered making TROUT for an 18 month old???
yeah
But tbh, Id say it was some form of ready to eat trout that she didn't have to do anything to, though I could just be being overly critical.
What probably annoys me the most is her double standards. She is lazy, yet calls people that feed from jars lazy, to me, at least they are feeding their kid something (I am not against jars but will be making all of Nina's food where possible). She also shits me about breast feeding. On about day 6 or me being in hospital with my milk still not really in, she was on the phone to DH saying she would give me a book about breastfeeding and how to do it and such. She was really stressing the point, DH had to turn around and tell her to stop because it wasn't that I didn't know how to do it, it's that my body had suffered major trauma and was not producing milk - she just didn't get it.
She is just a weirdo - though I love her to death
I'm not having a go at all Alana but what are your fears with the MMR?
Can Ry continue on at Daycare without being fully immunised?
I'm not having a go at all Alana but what are your fears with the MMR?
Can Ry continue on at Daycare without being fully immunised?
_Alana_
Sep 1 2009, 06:59 PM
No i know your not having a go at me Monica, i guess im ready and armed to fight for my belief like anyone.
Will not be having the MMR due to the risk in austims and asthma. ( again this is a big topic, i have physically been with two children that got autism from this needle. The goverment will say that its because you can only start testing for austism when the child is that age, but tell a mother why her child starting smiling at 6 weeks and then after having a reaction to this needle had a high temp that set off autism at 2 years and stopped smiling since ....... ) ( Also wth Ry now having croup at such a young age, the doctor is concerned about having childhood asthma many vaccs will set off asthma attacks in childre, again goverment will tell you its all case by case, but to me the real cases are the real mothers dealing with this. ) Ill get off my soap box now...... sorry.
Ry will be asked to stay home from school if there is an outbreak of Chickenpox, measles or Mumps because of not having the MMR until the other suffering child is clear. This is different from state to state most states to parent can still send their child if they wish. He will not need to stay home from any other illness though as he is being vacc just slower than others.
The chances of Ry getting chickenpox before the MMR needle is due is highly likely in the child care setting. Another carer at school her daughter conratcted chickenpox before the MMR needle was due - the doc said she didnt need that needle as highly anymore anyway.
Nyree
Sep 1 2009, 08:47 PM
Toffee, I really hope the Chiro helps you guys out and eases up the reflux. My best friend’s baby didn’t ‘sleep through’ till she was 6 months old. All babies are different and some are hungrier then others.
Alana, I remember when Madison had a slight cold at one of her immunisations... the doctor wouldn’t do it. We had to go back a week later when she was feeling 100%. The doctor told us that when they’re sick, they feel like crap... and when they get their needles, they feel like crap. So it’s important to have a clean bill of health before they receive them because we don’t want them to feel any worse.
~Emma~
Sep 2 2009, 06:43 AM
I remember reading somewhere that if you have probs getting bubs to drink milk, that a tub of yoghurt is the same as having a bottle... We're not at that point but good to know if we ever get there.
On sat and last night Soph went to bed later cause we were out and has slept better! I think we might put her bed time back later to 8.30ish... BUT i'm hanging for day light savings, she is waking at like 6.15-6.30 and it kinda screws up the days

We need the 7 am wake-up back!!!
Still no night bottle happening, and even her 1st bottle of the moring she is only taking about 160mL i thought she would drain it having gone 10 hours without.
She had her 1st lot of 'homemade' food yesterday. I knew she was keen so i cooked up a heap of sweet potato, she was a bit funny with it, cause it obviously tastes a bit different, but she ended up eating heaps! Im still gonna do fruit for breakky.. Might get some bananna in town today and try her with that

Im going out for lumch today with Sophies "boyfriend"

looking forward to it!
**Bee**
Sep 2 2009, 09:36 AM
Toffee - Hope the Chiro works
QUOTE(_Alana_ @ Sep 1 2009, 06:37 PM)

For the Record - we will not be having the MMR. He is due for his 4 Months this week - he will not be having them until he is completely free of croup and has weaned off the steriods. This from now on will be done seperatly each month not in one go. Called me stupid if you wish........ but i will do what im comfortable doing for my son.
Its your choice hun and you do what you feel is right
QUOTE(_Alana_ @ Sep 1 2009, 06:59 PM)

The chances of Ry getting chickenpox before the MMR needle is due is highly likely in the child care setting. Another carer at school her daughter conratcted chickenpox before the MMR needle was due - the doc said she didnt need that needle as highly anymore anyway.
The chickenpox and MMR are two different vacs...

MMR is given at 12months and Chickenpox at 18months. We got the MMr for Breanna but havent go the chicken pox yet

only because everytime I book it in Breanna gets sickso we have to cancel. I have been slack rebooking it.
Emma - Chelsea only drinks about 160 in the mornings too. She drinks about 200mls from all her other bottles though. Im going to give Chelsea pear and farex for Breakfast and mixed vegies for dinner. Will introduce lunch later. I make all my own vegies and meat but I just buy the Fruit in the pre made tin stuff. I just dont have time to make all the fruit as well.
~Emma~
Sep 2 2009, 09:40 AM
Bee, thats what i am gonna do aswell i think... I think i might also stop putting the farex/bellamys into the vegies aswell... It makes them look yucky

What brand fruits do you buy? the baby jars or in the canned fruit section?
Oh, and we're just doing breaky and dinner aswell, intend to introuce lunch around 6 months, and then snacks prob around 8 months?
Any luck with water yet guys? im think if getting a sippy cup that doesn't have one of those anti-spill valves.. any recs?
Oh, this solids thing is so over my head. Why can't they just go straight from breastmilk to adult food?
**Bee**
Sep 2 2009, 12:40 PM
Emma we just buy the heinz baby food in the jars. They are only fruit and vit c so they seem good enough. We just got a tommee tippee cup which is 6 months plus but she drinks from it fine. I dont really see the need of getting a 4 month one when she wont be using it for that long.
Tommee TippeeWe have the second cup from the top
~Emma~
Sep 2 2009, 02:38 PM
Thats the one i was looking at.. does it have the anti-leak valve thinginy on it??
**Bee**
Sep 2 2009, 03:14 PM
It doesnt leak at all so it must have.
**Bee**
Sep 3 2009, 06:46 AM
Chelsea has her first tooth

Not all the way through yet but I can feel it!!!
A first tooth!! Hooray!
Speaking of teeth, i'd REALLY like Wills to come through soon. He's started chewing on his tounge to get relief, and he's very clingy and grumpy. Starting to drive me nuts- i want my confident, independant baby back!
toffee
Sep 3 2009, 12:20 PM
first tooth - wow go Chels
Sarah Kate
Sep 3 2009, 03:21 PM
I would just be careful with the yogurt as their guts really aren't ready for dairy until 12 months old and I don't think you can compare formula to yogurt. JMO.
Nathan has been drinking water for awhile but only out of a bottle. Will introduce a sippy cup when he starts solids.
Toffee, hope the chiro works well. Let us know how he goes.
Emma was a huge fan of those fruit jelly ones (so was I!). She also liked the museli and custard ones but was about 8 months old then. I did my own veggies and then froze them into individual potions. When we introduced meat, I steamed it and mixed it in with the veggies.
Nyree
Sep 3 2009, 03:56 PM
Wow a first tooth for Chels!
I'm going to tackle solids in 2 weeks

My little boy is 5 months tomorrow
nephthys
Sep 3 2009, 09:01 PM
Look at my boy!


He's still wobbly of course (hense the pillow on the ground next to him) but can stand up supported for a short time now.
Ben is taking a small amount of Farex each day. I'm starting him very slowly although I think I need to up the intake because he's not putting on as much weight as he used to. He's actually drinking less milk than he was a month ago so I'm hoping he's okay.
Monica
Sep 3 2009, 10:10 PM
I wouldn't worry too much Nep, my Nina has really slowed down too. Once people used to say how big she was not they can't believe she's 10 days off 5 months. She is very tall but quite skinny (though has a little tum tum). I still haven't started solids though I probably could. She is still being BF and I express about 100 ml each morning to top her up before bed time. I tried formula twice and she didn't seem interested.
I am weighing her tomorrow, hopefully she has hit 7kg
QUOTE(Nyree @ Sep 3 2009, 03:56 PM)

My little boy is 5 months tomorrow

HAPPY 5 MONTHS ALAN!!
QUOTE(nephthys @ Sep 3 2009, 09:01 PM)

Look at my boy!


He's still wobbly of course (hense the pillow on the ground next to him) but can stand up supported for a short time now.
Ben is taking a small amount of Farex each day. I'm starting him very slowly although I think I need to up the intake because he's not putting on as much weight as he used to. He's actually drinking less milk than he was a month ago so I'm hoping he's okay.
Wow! Go Ben! That's so fantastic!!
I wouldn't worry about his weight, my Dr told me last week to expect slower weight gains now because they are using more energy. Looking at Ben, he's fit and healthy and developing fine- and if he's standing, then using a tonne of energy!! I think you are smart to keep an eye on it, but it's nothing to worry about.
QUOTE(Monica @ Sep 3 2009, 10:10 PM)

She is still being BF and I express about 100 ml each morning to top her up before bed time. I tried formula twice and she didn't seem interested.
Are you going to move her to formula eventually or continue breastfeeding? I've just heard some horrible stories about mothers trying to introduce formula at 6+ months and babies refusing. It's part of the reason we've given Will a bottle every day, just to get him used to it (i'm not sure i'll be b/feeding much past 6 months), and for emergencies.
Aggh...now i'm reading it back to myself it makes it sound like i'm saying exclusive b/feeding is a bad thing. It's not! I have so much respect & admiration for you for going the whole 'hog' with breastfeeding, all the way through. It's such a fantastic acheivement!! (I'll get off my highhorse now, i just believe that breastfeeding isn't rewarded enough).
So....ZZzzzzZZZ...Will's been awake since 2:45am. He woke up wet, which is fair enough, but then wanted a feed at 3:45am, and to play since then. I got an hours sleep since then when DH looked after him while he was getting ready for work. Oh...wait....i
think he's just gone to sleep in his cot. Ahhh.....but now i'm far too awake to go back to bed like i should. Sigh.
I think that Will is ready for solids. I'm upping his formula more & more, he's nursing more frequently, and he's showing all of the signs. I keep trying to deny it, but i see more and more that he's ready. Last night at dinner, i had an (empty) spoon and he opened his mouth for it everytime...but wouldn't open his mouth for a finger, or the dummy...he gets that food comes off cutlery. He also loves to watch us eat, and he 'ate' a chip the other night (chewed the soft mushy potato out of the skin). DH loves to feed him 'bits' of whatever we are eating (mashed up peas, pumpkin, etc). I really wanted to wait until 6 months too!
Sarah Kate
Sep 4 2009, 07:43 AM
OMG Ben how gorgeous are you!!!
Girls, as for drinking, try not to worry about it too much. Babies will be taking what they need. Sometimes they will drink a whole bottle, other times not so much. They are getting to the point when they know they are full. Even when you start solids, they will start taking less milk. We are the same, we only eat when we are hungry and sometimes it might be a big bowl of pasta or just a few crackers for example. As long as they aren't loosing weight. You can't force them to drink if they aren't hungry
**Bee**
Sep 4 2009, 08:01 AM

Ben!!! Wow thats clever. Sounds like he is doing well to me
Amy it does sounds like Will is ready but its up to you when you want to start. We tried Chelsea again thismorning and she just spits most out and doesnt chew so Im guess she isnt really ready just yet. I am going to cook up this pumpkin today

She might like that better.
Mon - Goodluck with the weigh in today.
HAPPY 5 MONTHS ALAN
Looks like Chelsea has made a lier out of me

That tooth that was popping out has gone

Like I cant even see it now

It was popping through the gum the other night and I could feel the sharp bits on it. I even took note of it in her baby book. The next morning gone. I have heard of them moving but not that much!!! I cant beleive it.
Well I better hope off and go and put dinner in the slow cooker.

I have a big day of tossing up my career options at the moment. Damo and I had a talk last night and we both agree that we want one of us here to take the girls to school and pick them up. So really I need a job that is flexible and works around me. The bodyshop it great but I sort of want something else. I do want to go back into realestate again but the hours would not suit us and I think it will be very full on. We have a few ideas in mind but I am still abit unsure at the moment.
~Emma~
Sep 4 2009, 08:27 AM
WOW Nep, little B is so awesome!!! can't believe he is taking his weight that well!!! he may skip crawling and go straight to walking

hope your prepared
HAPPY 5 MONTHS ALAN!!!! time has flown by so fast!!!
Bee - damn tooth!!! Soph has had hers come up and down 3 times so far that i have noticed. I wish they wouldn't be so damn elusive, just wish that one day they not, the next day they are!!! As for the job, glad you and Damo are on the same page, nothing worse than wanting one thing, and hubby doesn't... believe me, i know its not that great

Woul love to hear what your thinking about..
Amy - sometimes our ideals of when we want to do things don't meet our expectations. Im sure that Will will be fine with solids if you think he is ready.
SK - so many time i have been told that about the milk intake and so many times i have told myself, and i know that she knows when she is full and thats why she won't take anymore, but it still makes me worry on the days she won't drink much

i guess thats all part and parcel with being a mummy... WORRY!!! and i guess it never stops!!hehe my mum still calls me twice a day to tell me she loves me and i do the same with her

and i'm 24!! LOL
Toffee - how did you go with the chiropractor? i hope it makes so difference for you. Is the medication based on Blakes weight? could that be why his dose needed to be upped?
Us,home day hopefully, its horrible weather here (thank god, needed the rain to put out the fires down here) . i have lots of washing to do, so rather than leave it im gonna put it thru the dryer cause im working all wekkend again. Tomorrow night we're going out for dinner with Scotts family to celebrate his 30th from hen his dad was in hospital. And sunday, scott is going away all day (im furious that he won;t see his daughter for more than 10mins on father day) while i go to work. Soph will spend the day with her nanny and poppy. I don't finish til 8pm, so mum is gonna bring sophie home around 7ish, and put her to bed here so she isn't too disturbed, Scott prob won;t be home ti about 8ish aswell..
QUOTE(**Bee** @ Sep 4 2009, 08:01 AM)

Looks like Chelsea has made a lier out of me

That tooth that was popping out has gone

Like I cant even see it now

It was popping through the gum the other night and I could feel the sharp bits on it. I even took note of it in her baby book. The next morning gone. I have heard of them moving but not that much!!! I cant beleive it.
Well I better hope off and go and put dinner in the slow cooker.

I have a big day of tossing up my career options at the moment. Damo and I had a talk last night and we both agree that we want one of us here to take the girls to school and pick them up. So really I need a job that is flexible and works around me. The bodyshop it great but I sort of want something else. I do want to go back into realestate again but the hours would not suit us and I think it will be very full on. We have a few ideas in mind but I am still abit unsure at the moment.
Liar Liar pants on fire!

How frustrating that it was right there, and now it's gone!!!
Hopefull you can work out something that will suit both of you guys. I agree with Emma, it's so good that you are on the same team and are in agreement that you want something that suits your family.
QUOTE(~Emma~ @ Sep 4 2009, 08:27 AM)

And sunday, scott is going away all day (im furious that he won;t see his daughter for more than 10mins on father day) while i go to work. Soph will spend the day with her nanny and poppy. I don't finish til 8pm, so mum is gonna bring sophie home around 7ish, and put her to bed here so she isn't too disturbed, Scott prob won;t be home ti about 8ish aswell..
Sounds like a busy weekend! That sucks about fathers day for Soph & Scott, but hopefully it will just be this one, and while she's little she won't remember too much- and you can make up for it with many more fathers days to come.
I am going nuts today- i cannot WAIT for the weekend. That sleep i wrote about in the above post? It was enough for me to have a shower before he woke up again.

His routine is seriously out the window, so i have no idea what he wants when, i feel like i'm driving blind here. He's very very clingy and so i'm hoping (praying, wishing, dreaming!) it's teeth and will be over soon...they say that the first three months are the hardest, gee, that's a load of CRAP
~Emma~
Sep 4 2009, 09:18 AM
We're the opposite here Amy... Soph is really a dream at the moment.. Her day sleeps are fantastic, and night sleeps aren't awesome, but good!! i'm still up once or twice wih her, but not for longer than 10-15mins at a time. I believe having the strictist routine esp during the day ahs made her better, aswell as age.
Monica
Sep 4 2009, 09:25 AM
QUOTE(***Amy*** @ Sep 4 2009, 07:26 AM)

Are you going to move her to formula eventually or continue breastfeeding? I've just heard some horrible stories about mothers trying to introduce formula at 6+ months and babies refusing. It's part of the reason we've given Will a bottle every day, just to get him used to it (i'm not sure i'll be b/feeding much past 6 months), and for emergencies.
Aggh...now i'm reading it back to myself it makes it sound like i'm saying exclusive b/feeding is a bad thing. It's not! I have so much respect & admiration for you for going the whole 'hog' with breastfeeding, all the way through. It's such a fantastic acheivement!! (I'll get off my highhorse now, i just believe that breastfeeding isn't rewarded enough).
We have no problem getting her to take a bottle of EBM and I think when I tried the formula she was full so not interested for that reason (well at least I hope). I honestly don't know how long I will continue BF for. I have only ever given myself little milestones (a month at a time) so the longer I can keep going the better - teeth or 1 year old, whatever comes first, LOL.
Nina was FF from birth for 9 days so I'm sure she'll take it eventually, might just have to play around with different brands (we tried S26)
QUOTE(~Emma~ @ Sep 4 2009, 09:18 AM)

We're the opposite here Amy... Soph is really a dream at the moment.. Her day sleeps are fantastic, and night sleeps aren't awesome, but good!! i'm still up once or twice wih her, but not for longer than 10-15mins at a time. I believe having the strictist routine esp during the day ahs made her better, aswell as age.
Nightimes are really my only consolation...i normally NEVER have to get up during the night. The last four nights he's woken at 4am, fed, and gone back down until 6...until this morning, anyway.
I agree with you on a structured routine...i'm not crazy about it, but it does mean that i always know whats's coming next, and up until Monday we had it worked out like a dream....and then someone snuck into my house and swapped my baby overnight.

It's gets a bit like this normally during growth spurts...are they due for another one? I'm scratching my head....
QUOTE(Monica @ Sep 4 2009, 09:25 AM)

I have only ever given myself little milestones (a month at a time) so the longer I can keep going the better - teeth or 1 year old, whatever comes first, LOL.
That's a great way to do it, i'm doing the same. I promised myself i'd b/feed for the first six months, and then after that take it one month at a time....but golly gosh, i'm looking forward to having my body back again!
~Emma~
Sep 4 2009, 09:40 AM
QUOTE(***Amy*** @ Sep 4 2009, 10:28 AM)

Nightimes are really my only consolation...i normally NEVER have to get up during the night. The last four nights he's woken at 4am, fed, and gone back down until 6...until this morning, anyway.
hehe, i've never had a nightime where i havent had to get up, so im so used to it at the moment. I used to go to bed at 7pm, but have pushed it back to around 8.30-9 and can still survive. Although on my work days, im crashed out by 7.30ish...hehe
Amy... Will could be having a wonder week
http://blogginaboutbabies.wordpress.com/20...wonder-week-19/I just found that blog then when i searched for the wonder weeks, and i think im gonna really like it

Her buba is about 6 months ahead of ours, so good timing for us i think
**Bee**
Sep 4 2009, 01:03 PM
Mon we had aloy of trouble getting Chels to take a bottle. We spent hundreds on different bottles/teats and formula. anyways turns out she likes one of the most expensive formulas on the market

. Chelsea is having Nan gold HA. It just took time with us and we finally got there. Took along time for us though.
O I posted on FB about the job
~Emma~
Sep 4 2009, 01:10 PM
Bee, how much is that formula?? Soph is on karicar GOLD which it chemists is $22-24 a tin and in wollies it is $28!!!!!!!!
~Emma~
Sep 4 2009, 01:24 PM
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